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Subject:Re: brake lines and hoses?
From:John Anderson
Date:Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:06:03 -0800

Whoa, whoa, don't go with the poly shit...
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Really, I didn't follow this until now, but...� The poly gets scratched and the mild steel rusts instantly if you are in any salt, if you aren't probably fine sort of...�� To me it is a bear to flare by hand without a hydraulic tool because it often slips in the die.� Galvanized is better, if you scratch, a little cold galv touchup will last for years, but cupro-nickel is optimal (for many reasons.)� Proper fittings for same available here:
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http://www.austinhealeywood.com/brakelines.html
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A really good guy to deal with, he has M10 stuff for Porsche which is perfect for VW of any years, sells fittings and line seperately.� You can do a little better than his prices if you look, but I've bought 2 sets from him (Triumph and for '69 SC) and they were wonderful.
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Now even a $27 ISO flare from HF or Amazon�will do, but there is a trick.� You need to ideally cross clamp the die with a good C clamp (or I use a Starret pin vice) very near�the location where the line goes through, just adjacent but still able to operate the yoke.� That will prevent slippage inhernet with the cheaper (not well hardened) dies.� Frankly though for hand forming double or ISO, even a good ole Blue Point set from 30+ years ago I have still slips half the time with poly coated if I don't cross clamp it and just rely on the wing nuts.� If you do calmp it, perfect flares every time, adds about 30 seconds to each operation.� And the cupro-nickel is wonderful to work, bends super tight, flares easy.
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John
 

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From: Mike B. mbucchino@CHARTER.NET
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Thanks, John, Jason, David and Scott. This is the info I was looking for.
I found Dennis' comment to be pretty snarky-sounding, having a bad day, fella?

� I did find the poly-coated 25' coil at NAPA for $23 (on sale right now) and the ends are 1.69 each, but the top quality ISO flare tool they sell is $97 with lifetime warr.� I have done complete Beetle brake lines for years, and those kits are cheap and readily available, but I have very little experience doing Vanagon lines.� No kits available, no parts vendors selling so much as a single hard line, no descriptions online (with the

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