I had an '88 560 SEL. Yea 18 on the highway was about right. 12-14 around
town. I ran it on regular and never had a problem. Never even felt a
difference when treating it to premium. My wife has a '98 Audi A8 with the
4.2L, 5 valve/cylinder and Quattro. This thing does an easy 27-28 on the
high and 22-23 around town. I only get 30-31 highway in my 88 Fox.

Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Tom Hargrave
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:37 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Vanagon? Really? Gasoline vs. Diesel-again.

Now that's a good "apples to apples" diesel verses gas comparison.

Another one is with Mercedes S class, of which I've owned several. A 1986
420SEL is rated 15 MPG in town, 18 MPG Highway and also burns premium gas
only. My same year, same body 300SDL diesel got 22 MPG city and 25 MPG
highway.

I would expect the same mileage ratio in a diesel verses gas Vanagon and is
something to consider when doing a conversion.

Thanks, Tom Hargrave
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of
ralph meyermann
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 1:47 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Vanagon? Really? Gasoline vs. Diesel-again.

We once had Identical f350 dialogs other than 460ci gasser and the other
7.3L powerstroke empty the gasser got 12-13 mpg the diesel 16mpg avg of both
with the same load the gasser dropped to 6 mpg and needed downshifting on a
long hill the diesel was getting 12mpg and not needing to downshift on the
same hill there are advantages of a turbo diesel,not as much of mpg loss
with  heavier loads and less downshifts!!

Velma 82diesel 1.6 na westy

On Jan 22, 2012 1:11 PM, "Mike Riley" <mkriley@fuse.net> wrote:

 this is mostly due to one man  BOB LUTZ !
 when  vw held the highest residual value of any car  make due to the tdi,
he gave a long  speech on why diesels  would not  be viable  here. These
CEO's with their  outdated "visions"  are screwing it up for everybody.
mike
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