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Subject:Re: Vanagon? Really? Gasoline vs. Diesel-again.
From:Jim Felder
Date:Sun, 22 Jan 2012 17:09:51 -0600

I have, in addition to my diesel westy NA, a 91 EcoDiesel turbo Jetta. It
is an interesting car because the engine runs so lean that a catalytic
converter can be used with it. The result is not much more power than the
NA�a little�but it runs very clean. It gets 40 mpgs no matter how or where
I drive it. I know it would do better with a regular turbo injection pump
and a different  exhaust, but I like the clean aspect of it.

I like everything about the car, pretty much, except the @#$% &$%&* &^&$%#
@###$%#$ $$%^% %&* $&*^*^&* $%&%T*&*(&*^*& %&^&* belt system (it has AC, PS
and was designed by #$%^&$#$). I sometimes feel like parting out everything
but the engine and putting it in my Westy.

Anybody ever done that, and kept the cat?

Jim

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>wrote:

> I had an '88 560 SEL. Yea 18 on the highway was about right. 12-14 around
> town. I ran it on regular and never had a problem. Never even felt a
> difference when treating it to premium. My wife has a '98 Audi A8 with the
> 4.2L, 5 valve/cylinder and Quattro. This thing does an easy 27-28 on the
> high and 22-23 around town. I only get 30-31 highway in my 88 Fox.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Tom Hargrave
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:37 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Vanagon? Really? Gasoline vs. Diesel-again.
>
> Now that's a good "apples to apples" diesel verses gas comparison.
>
> Another one is with Mercedes S class, of which I've owned several. A 1986
> 420SEL is rated 15 MPG in town, 18 MPG Highway and also burns premium gas
> only. My same year, same body 300SDL diesel got 22 MPG city and 25 MPG
> highway.
>
> I would expect the same mileage ratio in a diesel verses gas Vanagon and is
> something to consider when doing a conversion.
>
> Thanks, Tom Hargrave
> www.stir-plate.com
> www.towercooler.com
> www.kegkits.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of
> ralph meyermann
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 1:47 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Vanagon? Really? Gasoline vs. Diesel-again.
>
> We once had Identical f350 dialogs other than 460ci gasser and the other
> 7.3L powerstroke empty the gasser got 12-13 mpg the diesel 16mpg avg of
> both
> with the same load the gasser dropped to 6 mpg and needed downshifting on a
> long hill the diesel was getting 12mpg and not needing to downshift on the
> same hill there are advantages of a turbo diesel,not as much of mpg loss
> with  heavier loads and less downshifts!!
>
> Velma 82diesel 1.6 na westy
>
> On Jan 22, 2012 1:11 PM, "Mike Riley" <mkriley@fuse.net> wrote:
>
>  this is mostly due to one man  BOB LUTZ !
>  when  vw held the highest residual value of any car  make due to the tdi,
> he gave a long  speech on why diesels  would not  be viable  here. These
> CEO's with their  outdated "visions"  are screwing it up for everybody.
> mike
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