---- Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA> wrote:
> Well, ask an inhabitant of either Turkey, South Africa, or Greece (Crete) if they consider themselves in a first or third world country.
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> "The term Third World arose during the Cold War to define countries that remained non-aligned with either capitalism and NATO (which along with its allies represented the First World), or communism and the Soviet Union (which along with its allies represented the Second World). This definition provided a way of broadly categorizing the nations of the earth into three groups based on social, political, and economic divisions."

Alistair, notice how easily one slips from vanagon related commentary to completely off topic, just by following a thread?  I'm not complaining or policing.  I'm just mentioning, and perhaps suggesting that when others do so, you might not be so quick to upbraid them.  mcneely
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> On 2012-02-08, at 7:36 PM, Richard A Jones wrote:
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> >> Vanagons are, for the most part, a first world luxury.
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> > Alistair:
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> > I disagree.  Originally T3s were very popular outside the 1st
> > world as delivery, repair, etc, vehicles.  I remember them
> > all over Crete in the late 80s.  They were the last Type 2
> > that had clearance.  Is South Africa in the 1st world?
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> > [T4s and T5s are mostly 1st world, paved roads, although
> > there sure are lots of them in Turkey.  And you can buy them
> > lots of places--for example, Peru:
> > http://www.volkswagen-cv-la.com/region/latin/es/models/transporter.html
> > Ooooo, a single-cab T5 with a TDI--or a double-cab:
> > http://www.volkswagen-cv-la.com/region/latin/es/models/transporter/pritschenwagen.html]
> > Can I have one, please, Mr VW?
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> > Richard

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David McNeely