

| Subject: | Re: Rear Brake set up-The spacers |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Turbovans |
| Date: | Tue, 20 Mar 2012 11:29:49 -0700 |
One additional thing I would add... always do only one side at a time !! that way ...you can go look at the other side when you wonder which way something fits. scott turbovans On 3/20/2012 6:36 AM, Finn Runyon wrote: > Dear Dennis, > As always, immensely helpful. Can't thank you enough! Looks like we will be heading to the Grand Canyon at the end of the week after all� > Best, > Finn > On Mar 19, 2012, at 7:09 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote: > >> VW did not always use self-adjusting drum brakes. On the non-self-adjusting >> versions the lower shoe rests were the adjusters. There was a star wheel, >> (nut) (113609205) and the slotted post (pin) (211609279) and two holes in >> the backing plate that allowed you to reach in with a screwdriver to make >> adjustments. This was regular maintenance. So as the shoes wore the bottoms >> were adjusted out to compensate so with regular care the entire shoe was >> worn and the entire friction surface was used. Most American cars with >> self-adjusting brakes use various methods to work the same way. VW decided >> to go the way of placing the adjusting mechanism as the same end as the >> cylinders. It should be noted that most air brake drum set ups on trucks >> work the same way, (slack adjusters). >> >> >> >> Now this works well if everything is the proper dimensions, especially the >> match between drum diameter and shoe thickness. A problem is that I have yet >> to find replacement brake shoes that have the proper pad thickness or a >> satisfactory material. For years I went to the dealer and got the OEM shoe >> sets but they are no longer available. The original shoe linings were >> riveted, metallic, high friction linings with a thickness of 6mm. The >> aftermarket shoes are only 4mm and the linings are soft. It is also common >> for some shoes to have the linings reversed (leading-trailing) or on the >> shoe in the wrong place. Shimming the bottom compensates for the thinner >> linings. This can also compensate for worn drums. The nuts and pins I >> mentioned above will fit perfectly on the Vanagon if you want to add >> adjustability. Since there are no detent springs to keep them from turning I >> do not know if that could be a problem so I use shims. 2-3mm on each shoes >> is a very good starting point. >> >> >> >> As these are self-adjusting brakes, I do not do any fine adjustment before >> placing the drums. I want to know the self-adjusters work. I want to hear >> them click! >> >> >> >> I have posted in the past instructions for installing and setting up the >> rear brakes. There are a few details that are critical. >> >> The top springs have to be in the correct position, center hooks face up. >> Otherwise they will hit the adjuster nut. >> >> The pushrod thread has to be able to turn freely. No grease or anti-seize. A >> dry lube like lock-ease. >> >> The handbrake cable needs to be properly adjusted. This cannot be done with >> the drum in place. You need to see the lever. >> >> After placing the shoes leave off the adjuster lever spring. The push rod >> should be installed with the front chamfer facing the backing plate and on >> the rear fork, the longer tang goes against the shoe. The shorter tang goes >> in front of the lever. Adjust the push rod to take up the slack but do not >> actually push out the shoes. Now notice how the hand brake can swing. Pull >> forward and connect the brake cable. There should be about 1/16" between the >> lever and the pushrod. Adjust the cable to give this on both sides. If the >> cables appear to be binding or the outer jackets are collapsed or distorted >> the cables need to be replaced. >> >> After this is sorted install the drums and make sure they are fully seated. >> If needed bleed the brakes. Pumping the pedal will work the adjusters and if >> there is any slack you should hear them click as they turn one notch with >> each pedal push. Oh , and you want cylinders that have the inner springs to >> prevent the pistons from retracting. This was recently a big discussion >> here. ATE! >> >> >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> >> >> Dennis
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