well, there are Fram filters, and there are Fram filters.  At least one list member who has an excellent reputation recommends the Fram Toughguard, the more expensive Fram.  But Mann and Mehle filters, bought from an online vendor, cost less, even with shipping charges.  I believe the same list member who recommended Fram Toughguard also is ok with Bosch filters, which cost about what Mann or Mehle filters do and can be bought locally in most areas.  mcneely

---- Jarrett Kupcinski <kupcinski@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> Are you referring to Fram filters? Because they've got a reputation for being significantly leower quality. I wouldn't put one on my van, unless it was an emergency. Here is some research that convinced me.
>
> http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/opinions.html
>
> In response to Paul, I don't know of anyone who carries Mann filters in the Austin area, but you would do ok with a wix, which someone else  recommended.
>
> -Jarrett
>
> On Mar 22, 2012, at 18:03, george jannini <georgejoann@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> >   stick in an orange oil filter and quit worrying.

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David McNeely