

| Subject: | Re: Form Jay Leno's Garage |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Turbovans |
| Date: | Thu, 5 Apr 2012 14:24:47 -0700 |
one runs a regular thermostat with Evans coolant ? for fuel economy and emissions reasons, and heater performance, you want it ruining 'up to temp'..of course. around 180 F or so. 'Cooler' is not 'better' in a street and road vehicle.....'up to proper temp' is better. scott On 4/5/2012 1:16 PM, Todd Last wrote: > I am really curious what running the evans coolant would do. Here is > their response when I asked about the cooling capacity of the coolant > vs. water: > > "water will better dissipate heat. That's a given, but the thing about > even a 50/50 mix, water will still create vapor barriers in the motor > due to the internal metal temps. Our coolant does not allow the > coolant to turn to steam pockets like water does. Ours stays a liquid > and pulls much more heat from internal metals, which in turn, lowers > internal temps. Our coolant does not generate pressure as well. The > only thing generating pressure in the system is the water pump. So > there is no wear on gaskets or seals as well as the hoses are not > subjected to the high pressure either. " > > So, it would seem that if you do not have the pressure cycling in the > cooling system, your components might last longer. Not having steam > pockets would be a plus. What would be interesting would be to see > what the coolant temp settles at with the Evans coolant, vs. the > traditional 50/50 mix. My guess is that it would be somewhat higher. > They do make a big point about needing to make sure that there is no > more than 3% water contamination in the coolant. It might be a bit > challenging getting to all the places to dry out your Vanagon cooling > system - so the initial fill might involve filling, testing for > contamination, and draining and refilling until you were in the > correct range. > > Todd > '88 Westy GL > > > > On 4/5/2012 12:57 PM, Hector Zapata wrote: >> That's what I found interesting about the video, and the fact that >> there's no pressure build up, hence the hoses last longer and the >> heads/water pump, too. I replaced all the cooling system parts a >> couple of years ago, almost all, if not all the plastic parts >> replaced with stainless steel or aluminum pieces. Some people are >> using long life coolant in their vans, so why not a "for life" one? A >> 5-gallon bucket might cost me $200.00, contrary to thounsands to >> replace the heads, gaskets, hoses... it kinda sorta makes sense to >> me. But what do I know, I've had my van for almost fifteen years and >> driven about 140,000 miles with all kinds of problems and issues, >> mostly due to ignorance, and/or not doing a good job fixing something >> the first time. It's been said that if it's not done right the first >> time for being in a hurry, somehow there's always time to fix things >> a second or third time. I think I haven't learned that lesson yet for >> some mysterious reason. >> >> Hector >> 1990 Carat 'Ursula' >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Todd Last <Rubatoguy@comcast.net >> <mailto:Rubatoguy@comcast.net>> wrote: >> >> Thought I would share the response I got from Evans coolant after >> showing them a photo of typical Vanagon water jacket seal >> corrosion, and asking if using their coolant would help: >> >> ".......we have seen this type of corrosion in steel head as well >> as aluminum. The culprit is actually the acids that form over >> time due to the electrolysis. Our coolant will eliminate all the >> corrosion factors along with the electrolysis. Our coolant is >> also phosphate free." >> >> On 4/1/2012 5:43 AM, Hector Zapata wrote: >> >> http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/extras/car-care/waterless-engine-coolant/index.shtml >> >>
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