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Subject:Re: Interesting Tire Info
From:Chris S.
Date:Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:16:50 -0400

With D plies try 45 front and back. No sense pumping up the rear so high if you are not carrying passengers back there. 

Chris.

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Dnia Apr 26, 2012 o godz. 17:11 Richard Duvernay <richard.duvernay@SBCGLOBAL.NET> napisał(a):

> Just want to offer a contrary reiview.  I bought my 90 westy three years ago 
> with brand new Kumho Radial 857's on it.  I run the same pressure as Dave, 53 in 
> the rear, 43 in the front.  They track and handle real well, but seriously  it's 
> like riding in a commercial truck.  I feel every bump.  I believe mine have worn 
> more than 50% in only 15,000 miles.  I had the brake fluid changed last month 
> and the mechanic said they were wearing thin.  Bad karma...I punctured the tire 
> the next week when I ran over, believe it or not, one of those plastic corn on 
> the cob holders that looks like a minature corn on the cob with two metal 
> prongs.  Thump, thump, thump, thump as I went down the road sportin an ear of 
> corn out my tire.  That was it. I refuse to be bested by a plastic vegetable.    
> I'm now on a quest to upgrade to 15 inch wheels and wider tires :)      
> 
> Rick 
> 90 Westy (one ear missing)
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Sent: Thu, April 26, 2012 1:37:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Interesting Tire Info
> 
> Well, I am not going to go to all the calling Kumho and so on that I did 3 years 
> ago.  At that time, Kumho engineers told me (and evidently Karl M. also) that 
> the Kumho Radial 857 sold in the U.S. is the same tire that is sold all over the 
> world as a truck and van tire, and is quite suitable for trucks and vans here.  
> The tire is not marked as for trailers only because it is not for trailers 
> only.  I was told that the tire is marketed in the U.S. for trailers because 14 
> inch tires for trucks are of so little demand here.  Interestingly, the tire is 
> built on other rim sizes, but not imported here, so I am not sure what that is 
> about.
> 
> But, it is not marked as "ST" or "For Trailer Use Only," because it is not.  It 
> is certified for 95 mph, it is a D tire (8 ply rating in the older terminology).
> 
> If interested, call Kumho, their contact information is on their web page.
> 
> I'm sure you will get the same answer I did.  Oh, the engineer said that by the 
> Kumho certification in the U.S., the tire is primarily a trailer tire, but the 
> secondary application of truck, bus, or van is an "allowed" application.  That's 
> why their web page focuses on trailer use, but does mention truck, bus, or van 
> application.  I notice that some other web pages in other countries now mention 
> the trailer application first as well, including Canada, but still point out the 
> truck, bus, or van use.
> 
> Well, I thought I wouldn't bother with this any more, but I have wasted a good 
> part of a day on it.  Good grief!!
> 
> mcneely
> 
> ---- David_Vickery <david_vickery@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>> I thought they are required to mark them ST if it is only for trailer use?
> 
> mark drillock <mdrillock@COX.NET> wrote:
> 
>> It is not just TireRack saying they are for trailer use. The Discount
>> Tire website now says it too, along with many others. I wonder how easy
>> you would find it now if you went in again and tried to get some to put
>> on a Westy. I can see some tire guys refusing to order them just on that
>> basis. It might take some talking.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> mcneely4@cox.net wrote:
>>> Mark, what I can blame people for is not paying attention to legitimate 
>>> information that describes the tire and its uses, including Kumho web pages and 
>>> references to them by folks who have investigated the tire.  Karl was fine with 
>>> the tire only after his conversation with his engineering buddy.  Fine.  Good 
>>> for him for wanting to be sure.  But when the tire is marketed worldwide for 
>>> van, bus, and truck applications, including in the U.S. though mentioned 
>>> secondarily here to its trailer application because of size only, why would 
>>> people be so silly as to rely only on Tire Rack?
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
> --
> David McNeely
>