

| Subject: | Re: Interesting Tire Info |
| From: | Dave Mcneely |
| Date: | Fri, 27 Apr 2012 08:45:48 -0500 |
Hmmm...... . The VW recommendation is based on "average" weight distribution, and the engine being in the rear. When I travel for camping, I load gear on the bed behind the rear seat. The storage under the seat is full of stuff, including a Dutch oven, tarp and poles, the jack, hatchet --- 2-3 hundred pounds of stuff between that behind and that under the seat. The ride doesn't bother me. If I loaded the thing heavier, I would assume that I was supposed to pump it up above the recommendation, not drop it if I have not loaded it to the max. I also assume that whatever pressure I run it at, the rear is supposed to be at a higher psi than the front to compensate for the engine. What do the "experts" on here say? Dennis? The tire folks I've consulted say run it at 53/43. mcneely ---- "Chris S." <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > With D plies try 45 front and back. No sense pumping up the rear so high if you are not carrying passengers back there. > > Chris. > > Wysłane z iPhone'a > > Dnia Apr 26, 2012 o godz. 17:11 Richard Duvernay <richard.duvernay@SBCGLOBAL.NET> napisał(a): > > > Just want to offer a contrary reiview. I bought my 90 westy three years ago > > with brand new Kumho Radial 857's on it. I run the same pressure as Dave, 53 in > > the rear, 43 in the front. They track and handle real well, but seriously it's > > like riding in a commercial truck. I feel every bump. I believe mine have worn > > more than 50% in only 15,000 miles. I had the brake fluid changed last month > > and the mechanic said they were wearing thin. Bad karma...I punctured the tire > > the next week when I ran over, believe it or not, one of those plastic corn on > > the cob holders that looks like a minature corn on the cob with two metal > > prongs. Thump, thump, thump, thump as I went down the road sportin an ear of > > corn out my tire. That was it. I refuse to be bested by a plastic vegetable. > > I'm now on a quest to upgrade to 15 inch wheels and wider tires :) > > > > Rick > > 90 Westy (one ear missing) > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Sent: Thu, April 26, 2012 1:37:47 PM > > Subject: Re: Interesting Tire Info > > > > Well, I am not going to go to all the calling Kumho and so on that I did 3 years > > ago. At that time, Kumho engineers told me (and evidently Karl M. also) that > > the Kumho Radial 857 sold in the U.S. is the same tire that is sold all over the > > world as a truck and van tire, and is quite suitable for trucks and vans here. > > The tire is not marked as for trailers only because it is not for trailers > > only. I was told that the tire is marketed in the U.S. for trailers because 14 > > inch tires for trucks are of so little demand here. Interestingly, the tire is > > built on other rim sizes, but not imported here, so I am not sure what that is > > about. > > > > But, it is not marked as "ST" or "For Trailer Use Only," because it is not. It > > is certified for 95 mph, it is a D tire (8 ply rating in the older terminology). > > > > If interested, call Kumho, their contact information is on their web page. > > > > I'm sure you will get the same answer I did. Oh, the engineer said that by the > > Kumho certification in the U.S., the tire is primarily a trailer tire, but the > > secondary application of truck, bus, or van is an "allowed" application. That's > > why their web page focuses on trailer use, but does mention truck, bus, or van > > application. I notice that some other web pages in other countries now mention > > the trailer application first as well, including Canada, but still point out the > > truck, bus, or van use. > > > > Well, I thought I wouldn't bother with this any more, but I have wasted a good > > part of a day on it. Good grief!! > > > > mcneely > > > > ---- David_Vickery <david_vickery@YAHOO.COM> wrote: > >> I thought they are required to mark them ST if it is only for trailer use? > > > > mark drillock <mdrillock@COX.NET> wrote: > > > >> It is not just TireRack saying they are for trailer use. The Discount > >> Tire website now says it too, along with many others. I wonder how easy > >> you would find it now if you went in again and tried to get some to put > >> on a Westy. I can see some tire guys refusing to order them just on that > >> basis. It might take some talking. > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> mcneely4@cox.net wrote: > >>> Mark, what I can blame people for is not paying attention to legitimate > >>> information that describes the tire and its uses, including Kumho web pages and > >>> references to them by folks who have investigated the tire. Karl was fine with > >>> the tire only after his conversation with his engineering buddy. Fine. Good > >>> for him for wanting to be sure. But when the tire is marketed worldwide for > >>> van, bus, and truck applications, including in the U.S. though mentioned > >>> secondarily here to its trailer application because of size only, why would > >>> people be so silly as to rely only on Tire Rack? > >>> > >>> > > > > > > -- > > David McNeely > > -- David McNeely
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