

| Subject: | Re: more information on engine swap/fuel pump woes |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Turbovans |
| Date: | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:57:15 -0700 |
I'm sure most pretty savvy vanagon owners have a known-good spare distributor to try. changing the Hall Sender inside the distributor is a little tricky. On 5/11/2012 5:29 PM, Chris S. wrote: > I second the Hall Sender as the culprit. Swap with a known good one to test. Got a friend with a Vanagon? > > Chris. > > Wysłane z iPhone'a > > Dnia May 11, 2012 o godz. 18:04 Scott Daniel - Turbovans<scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> napisał(a): > >> Hi, >> I have read that the tests in Bentley on a Hall Sender are not that >> definitive. >> >> I like to have 5 good reasons to change a part ...like want to be sure >> it's really needed .. >> on this one 2.1 waterboxer though .. >> we just had to go with new Hall Sender finally ..and that was it. >> >> scott >> www.turbovans.com >> >> On 5/10/2012 10:54 PM, Robert Fisher wrote: >>> Thanks, I'll try that. I've been leery of the hall sender since the phantom >>> no spark episode a while back... It tested out ok according to the tips and >>> tricks that I gleaned from the list, but I've wondered about it all along. >>> I have no idea how old it is. I have another one that I can try if it >>> warrants it. I'll do the troubleshooting according to Hoyle tomorrow and >>> see what that gets me. I just jumped to the pump since it obviously wasn't >>> functioning normally in situ. >>> >>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans< >>> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: >>> >>>> here is a very nice super simple fuel pump 'power to it' trick. >>>> requires only one tool.. >>>> a small screw driver or even a paper clip. >>>> >>>> don't even need the keys for the van. >>>> this is to run the fuel pump .. >>>> downstream of all relays and switches that control it. >>>> as a test. >>>> >>>> open rear hatch, >>>> remove engine cover lid >>>> remove cover from relay box on left side. >>>> the Fuel Pump relay is the right one. >>>> ( heck ..a body could use this trick to pump old gas out of a parts van >>>> say ..before that gas gets too old ) . >>>> >>>> jump, with your small screw driver the top wire and the very bottom wire . >>>> ( this routes Batt voltage on the red wire, to the double white wire on >>>> the bottom ) . >>>> >>>> if that makes your FP run ...and your fuel pump doesn't run otherwise >>>> when it should .. >>>> you can figure the fuel pump , the wires, and its ground are working. >>>> >>>> on one 2.1 waterboxer I dealt with .. >>>> intermittent no-start. >>>> you could also drive it 9 miles with no problems.. >>>> but then ..intermittently ......wouldn't fire up, no ignition. >>>> >>>> that one turned out to be a Hall Sender in the distributor. >>>> New one of those fixed it very nicely. >>>> >>>> scott >>>> www.turbovans.com >>>> >>>> On 5/10/2012 7:53 PM, Robert Fisher wrote: >>>> >>>> Here we go again. Van had been running normally for a while after fixing >>>> (?) my no-spark issue. Then (much later) it began to have little >>>> hesitations; a very brief, but seemingly complete loss of power while >>>> driving. It never killed the engine- sometimes it didn't happen at all, >>>> sometimes it happened a lot. This kept up over several tanks of gas. It >>>> usually only happened after the first mile of driving if it was cold, but >>>> once or twice happened almost immediately after taking off. We couldn't >>>> work out a consistent pattern. If anything it seemed to happen the most >>>> when driving on a north/south road. Go figure. >>>> >>>> I ran it with and without the O2 sensor, no change. I checked a bunch (but >>>> not all) of the wires and grounds. Nothing obvious jumped out. Eventually >>>> it tapered off and just quit doing it; neither of us has noticed it for >>>> more than ten days. This is my only daily driver at the moment so it's hard >>>> to get any decent block of time to troubleshoot. >>>> >>>> Well I have all the time I can find now 'cause it stopped running again. My >>>> wife drove my daughter to school at oh-dark-thirty for a field trip; the >>>> van ran absolutely normally. When she got back in it to come home, it >>>> cranked but wouldn't start. When I got to the van I looked it over for the >>>> usual suspects I didn't see anything obvious so I tried to start it. I >>>> immediately noticed the lack of 'buzz' from the fuel pump. No vibration at >>>> all when the key is turned to first position or when cranking. Put the >>>> meter on it and got no voltage, so we dragged it home. >>>> >>>> I pulled the pump and put 12v to it. It spun up, no unusual noises or other >>>> noticeable issues. I ran it in reverse for a few seconds just for GP, all >>>> seemed well so I put it back in. On having my wife crank the van there was >>>> no voltage again with the key in first position, but I got 10.~ volts when >>>> cranking. However the pump didn't feel like it was running and of course >>>> the van didn't start. >>>> >>>> I'm going to go through the Bentley and try some of the tips in this thread >>>> tomorrow; I'm just running out of daylight now and I wanted to get this >>>> written down before I forgot something. >>>> >>>> Anything jump to anyone's mind for when I get back on it? >>>> >>>> TIA, >>>> >>>> Cya, >>>> >>>> Robert >>>> >>>> '87& '86 2.1/Auto GLs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Cya, >>> Robert >>> >>> '87& '86 2.1/Auto GLs >>>
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