Metal on metal.   Shop opened the bleeder when pushing the pistons back.
Guess they left them open too long and drained the master.  He's planning
to head into Knoxville tommorow in hope of finding someone open.  There was
a recommended shop in the other direction but not open Saturday.

Jason
On 2012-05-18 11:04 PM, "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I don't mind helping anyone so no problem even if not Friday.
>
> What do you really mean by "running out of brakes"? Pads worn to metal or
> pedal to the floor?
> Pads can be changed without need to bleed the brake system although
> especially with ABS I like to open the bleeders while the calipers are
> being
> retracted so as not to push the fluid back into the system. Even with ABS
> the system can be bleed using conventional methods.
>
> Sounds like something in the hydraulics has failed and some troubleshooting
> may be needed.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Jason
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 6:40 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: OT: Audi help need in Robbinsville, NC
>
> It's Friday so I hope this post is acceptable.
>
> Friend of mine is visiting North Carolina and ran out of brakes on his 2008
> Audi A4 Q.   He had to drive 2 hrs just to get a set of pads even.  He is
> in currently in Robbinsville, NC.  A local garage installed them and
> managed
> to screw up bleeding the system.  They do not have a pressure bleeder, and
> I
> suspect there is air in the ABS unit now.  Any one know a qualified shop
> not
> too far?  There is very little pedal pressure (was great before).  Multiple
> attempts to manual bleed has not been very successful.
> I was on the phone with him when I heard the mechanic asking where to lift
> the car from even.....<roll eyes>
>
> PM off the list if you have any suggestions.  Thanks,
>
> Jason
> 83 Westy in Canada.
>
>