Language evolves over time, whether we like it or not. I'm not co-opting
anything, just pointing out that the here disputed use of the term is in
step with the industry use the term. The term was co-opted long ago and
in more industries than this one. I could care less......

Mark

Dave Mcneely wrote:
> Well, you guys need to find a term that fits what you supply, rather than co-opt one that fits something else.  mcneely
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> ---- mark drillock<mdrillock@cox.net>  wrote:
>> The term has different meanings depending on context. In the aftermarket
>> engine business it is very common to sell "turn key" engine packages.
>> They are fully assembled, on a pallet, ready to ship and install, and
>> that is said right up front. Just google on the term "turnkey engine"
>> and see the many companies offering "turn key" that still have to be
>> installed. Like these below, from well known automotive suppliers.
>>
>> http://cbperformance.com/turnkeys.asp
>>
>> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-19210009
>>
>> Mark
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>> Dave Mcneely wrote:
>>> Good grief.  Where did the term "turn key" job come from?  From a job being complete to the point that the customer can simply turn the key and get on with life.  Applies to houses, vehicles, who knows what.  But it does apply to a situation as Ben described and as I just did.  There is no point in trying to make it less.  Anyone who does, is not adhering to the meaning.  mcneely
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