---- mark drillock <mdrillock@COX.NET> wrote:
> Don said he had never heard of engines being sold as "turnkey" and I
> pointed out they are commonly sold under just that label. These
> companies explicitly sell built up engines packaged for simple
> installation and they say so right up front. How you would lump that
> with some kind of food product misrepresentation is beyond me. The
> engine companies don't claim a team of fairies will visit during the
> night to install it for you or anything. Anyone buying an engine mail
> order certainly knows they will have to do more than just start the car
> after the engine arrives.

And to sell such a product under the consumer understood term "turn key" is not appropriate, since one cannot turn a key and use the product.  Pretty simple.

>
> Mark
>
>
>
> Jim Felder wrote:
> > You can google the term "healthy food" and get even more examples of
> > companies misrepresenting their products, just to offer a single
> > example out of many. The fact that a great number of people get away
> > with it shouldn't have any bearing on the meaning of the phrase
> > "healthy food" or "turnkey" or what we accept as such. These are
> > claims that sound good, get people interested, etc. but are not
> > reality, and for the sake of people who really do offer turnkey work
> > and healthy food, they shouldn't.
> >
> > My  two.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > Try Google on the term "turnkey
> >> engine" and you will see hundreds of businesses selling engines they
> >> call turnkey. No matter how narrowly any of us may prefer to use the
> >> term the fact is that the industry in question broadly uses it in a
> >> different way and thus people in that industry may also do so without
> >> committing any inherent contradiction.
> >> Don Hanson wrote:
> >>>
> >

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