

| Subject: | Re: At Idle: AFM Flap, CO Screw Relationship. Explanation Found |
| From: | Larry Alofs |
| Date: | Mon, 9 Jul 2012 12:51:08 -0400 |
Scott; One of the main points that David was trying to make is that inexpensive analog meters have too low an impedance to measure the output of an O2 sensor. They need too much current to operate and the sensor produces a volt or so, but a very small current. Imagine trying to measure the pressure in a small diameter brake line with a pressure gauge that allowed fluid to escape from the system thru a half inch opening. A DVM generally has a high impedance (uses very little current to get its voltage measurement) but does not update quickly or smoothly and is therefore hard to interpret in this situation. An oscilloscope will work, but is expensive and bulky. What we need is an inexpensive o-scope attachment for a laptop. Would not need high frequency response by today's standards, just cheap and rugged. Larry A. On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > Inexpensive small analogue meters are like, only 5 or 6 bucks these days. > two gallons of gas about. > > > > On 7/8/2012 11:48 AM, neil n wrote: >> >> Good to know. >> >> Since I moved the AFM wiper to a new portion of resistive strip, I >> kind of assumed there would be no drop outs. Besides; moving the wiper >> did not change how the engine ran. >> >> Sure wish I still had my old $9 Radio Shack analogue meter! >> >> Neil. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 11:35 AM, David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> >> wrote: >> >>> At 02:10 PM 7/8/2012, neil n wrote: >>>> >>>> With my DVOM, I'd see the value change at a more or less "even" rate >>>> when slowly and evenly moving the vane. >>> >>> >>> The ideal tool for this is a scope. Analog meter with a twitchy needle >>> is >>> next. I'd rate most DMMs essentially useless for it unless they have a >>> fast-responding bar-graph display. The normal 2-3 updates per second >>> really >>> can't show you little dropouts unless you're moving the vane with a >>> micrometer screw or something like that, ..... >>> I'm going to make a wild guess that >>> a typical DMM is only actually looking at the input less than a quarter >>> of >>> the time. >> >> >> >> -- >> Neil n >> >> 65 kb image Myford Ready For Assembly http://tinyurl.com/64sx4rp >> >> '88 Slate Blue Westy to be named. >> >> '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ >> >> Vanagon VAG Gas I4/VR Swap Google Group: >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines >> >
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