

| Subject: | Start-Stop Syndrome Returns |
| From: | Rocket J Squirrel |
| Date: | Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:48:19 -0700 |
Two years ago, while driving back from Flathead Lake in Montana, my van got all weird on me. I posted the symptoms but no one was able to provide a good idea of the cause. Mrs Squirrel and I just returned from a ten-day camping trip in Eastern Oregon and the problem re-occured. Rather than point back to the old thread, I'll just describe what happens. 1984 1.9L auto transmission SYMPTOM: When climbing up steep, long grades in hot (90F+) weather. engine repeatedly cuts out for about five seconds, then restarts. DESCRIPTION OF BEHAVIOR: The engine just dies. The van coasts slower and slower, rpms dropping on tach, then the engine re-starts (if the van has not slowed too much, otherwise, have to use starter). OTHER INFORMATION: 1. This is not a random cut-out, but quite periodic. The hotter the day, the steeper the climb, the more frequently the engine cuts out. On a moderate grade, the engine will cut out every 45 seconds; as the grade steepens the engine dies every 15 seconds. 2. Duration of no-power lasts about five seconds. 3. The fact that the tach gives a signal when the engine is not providing power indicates that there are ignition pulses, yes? So this is possibly a fuel delivery issue? 4. When engine is running, all instruments indicate normal operation, the O2 measuring gizmo shows normal bounce-bounce action. 5. When the engine is dead, the O2 gizmo is dark -- neither rich or lean condition indicated. I tried to see what happens when the engine re-starts but it happens very fast but maybe the bouncing bars come in from the "lean" direction. Again, pointing to a fuel delivery issue? 6. These grades are steep enough that I run either in (auto trans) second gear at about 2500 rpm, or 1st gear at about 3000 rpm. Thinking that maybe the AFM was sitting on a flat spot I tried wiggling the gas pedal but it did not change the behavior. 7. It's fairly nerve-wracking to be a couple miles from the summit and have the engine die one or more times a minute. 8. Once the road flattens, the engine runs fine. If the day is cool, the same grades do not cause the problem. CALL FOR IDEAS: I won't be able to try things one at a time and see if they fix the problem. The drives are too long--hours--in hot weather up steep grades not immediately around here. So what I'd appreciate from the group would be a list of candidate parts I can replace over the next couple months and then, on our next big ol' camping trip up the sides of mountains in summer, we can see whether the problem re-occurs. FOR YOUR AMUSEMENT, MY BEST BUT PROBABLY SILLY IDEA: Bubbles in the fuel line. The regular, nearly clock-like periodicity of the cut-out makes me think of those old school Christmas tree ornaments that have bubbles rising in a tube of water. The hotter the day, the more bubbles; the steeper the climb, the more bubbles. (When replying, please trim as needed.) -- Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott 1984 Westfalia, auto trans, Bend, Ore.
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