

| Subject: | Re: New-Spark-Plugcebo Effect |
| From: | Rocket J Squirrel |
| Date: | Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:53:13 -0700 |
"Let the piston meltdowns and broken rings begin." Dennis, who's had that happen to them? -- Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott 1984 Westfalia, auto trans, Bend, Ore. On 08/21/2012 04:28 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote: > Those are simply the wrong spark plugs. The standard plug is a W7C. The "D" > is a longer reach plug used in the inline 4s. The projected tip brings the > flame front closer to the piston and can increase the propensity for knock > and ping. This can also increase the production of NOx especially once ping > begins. Unfortunately in the Water boxer Ping is not heard until it is > getting really bad. Let the piston meltdowns and broken rings begin. Yes it > may feel better especially after replacing worn plugs. If you want to use > quad electrode plugs go for the Bosch 4477 ( my favorite). Although it is > listed as a replacement for the W7D's due to its more universal design the > actual reach is closer to the "C" series and the platinum tip being enclosed > eliminates the glowing red part that can induce ping. BTW back in the old > days if you went to the dealer to get spark plugs you would get W7CS. > W=14mm thread with gasket > 7=Heat range Higher is hotter. > C=length of thread and reach, (d=extended tip) > Next C =copper, S=Silver > If an "X" = extended gap such as .060. > > The new Bosch numbering system is not as easy to decipher. > > Dennis > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > Rocket J Squirrel > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 4:24 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: New-Spark-Plugcebo Effect > > Just swapped out my older Bosch W7DC0 pluggies for new NGK BP6ET. > > Either tencentlife (Chris Corkin) is right: "The main reason this plug > design so often produces palpable improvement in idle, throttle response, > and overall performance is mostly due to the projected core, and that is > helped by the side electrodes not "shading" the spark gap from the middle of > the charge. The wbx has a very compact, somewhat "spherical" charge at TDC, > as well as outstanding squish dynamics, so initiating flame nearer to the > charge center aided by the squish produces a faster total burn, and fast > burn is the principal requirement for responsiveness, efficient use of the > fuel, and lowered emissions (especially NOx)." > > <http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=327351&start=80&sid=2b4a44 > c5892001fb15120a77e2dd8767> > > or it's the New-Spark-Plugcebo Effect. > > But I definitely feel that the throttle is more responsive and the van > peppier. > > No increase in real power, of course: took the van up my neighborhood > calibrated steep street and it didn't climb any faster. But I'm pleased > anyway. > > -- > Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott > 1984 Westfalia, auto trans, > Bend, Ore. >
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