

| Subject: | Re: New-Spark-Plugcebo Effect |
| From: | Dennis Haynes |
| Date: | Tue, 21 Aug 2012 20:31:11 -0400 |
Iv'e pulled my share! The best is when these failure get blamed on a bad engine rebuild. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Rocket J Squirrel Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:53 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: New-Spark-Plugcebo Effect "Let the piston meltdowns and broken rings begin." Dennis, who's had that happen to them? -- Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott 1984 Westfalia, auto trans, Bend, Ore. On 08/21/2012 04:28 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote: > Those are simply the wrong spark plugs. The standard plug is a W7C. The "D" > is a longer reach plug used in the inline 4s. The projected tip brings > the flame front closer to the piston and can increase the propensity > for knock and ping. This can also increase the production of NOx > especially once ping begins. Unfortunately in the Water boxer Ping is > not heard until it is getting really bad. Let the piston meltdowns and > broken rings begin. Yes it may feel better especially after replacing > worn plugs. If you want to use quad electrode plugs go for the Bosch > 4477 ( my favorite). Although it is listed as a replacement for the > W7D's due to its more universal design the actual reach is closer to > the "C" series and the platinum tip being enclosed eliminates the > glowing red part that can induce ping. BTW back in the old days if you went to the dealer to get spark plugs you would get W7CS. > W=14mm thread with gasket > 7=Heat range Higher is hotter. > C=length of thread and reach, (d=extended tip) Next C =copper, > S=Silver If an "X" = extended gap such as .060. > > The new Bosch numbering system is not as easy to decipher. > > Dennis > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On > Behalf Of Rocket J Squirrel > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 4:24 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: New-Spark-Plugcebo Effect > > Just swapped out my older Bosch W7DC0 pluggies for new NGK BP6ET. > > Either tencentlife (Chris Corkin) is right: "The main reason this plug > design so often produces palpable improvement in idle, throttle > response, and overall performance is mostly due to the projected core, > and that is helped by the side electrodes not "shading" the spark gap > from the middle of the charge. The wbx has a very compact, somewhat > "spherical" charge at TDC, as well as outstanding squish dynamics, so > initiating flame nearer to the charge center aided by the squish > produces a faster total burn, and fast burn is the principal > requirement for responsiveness, efficient use of the fuel, and lowered emissions (especially NOx)." > > <http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=327351&start=80&sid= > 2b4a44 > c5892001fb15120a77e2dd8767> > > or it's the New-Spark-Plugcebo Effect. > > But I definitely feel that the throttle is more responsive and the van > peppier. > > No increase in real power, of course: took the van up my neighborhood > calibrated steep street and it didn't climb any faster. But I'm > pleased anyway. > > -- > Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott > 1984 Westfalia, auto trans, > Bend, Ore. >
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