

| Subject: | Re: Poor Hot Start Discovery - midway through solution |
| From: | neil n |
| Date: | Sat, 25 Aug 2012 20:45:35 -0700 |
could the EVAP purge valve diaphragm fail open allow fuel vapours to flood the intake and cause a hard arm start? Neil. On 8/25/12, Skip <skiplaubach@comcast.net> wrote: > I posted this on thesamba.com without any response. It seems like this > family is more "problem-solving" focused, which is far more interesting. I > may have my hypothesis all wrong here, and will do more investigative fun > tomorrow. Thanks for any wisdom that may be offered on this one. Skip > > > Another "start phenomena" that I'm working through is the "hot start" issue, > turns over and doesn't ignite. I've concluded that, when hot, the engine > gets too much fuel, therefore is "flooded" and just turns over and over. > > Midway through the solution I discovered that if I depressed the clutch, > keep it in second or first, depress the accelerator, after turning over a > lot, it would start. Didn't always work. BTW, just tried the "release the > EB" trick and that seemed to work (one data point). Why? > > Then last night, I drove 6 miles into town, bought some ice cream, etc., > went to start the Westy, and it just turned over and over, no start. Then, > drawing from a dusty memory of a Samba post, I opened the engine cover and > removed the fuel inj. connectors (three of four, #1 is not easily reachable > under the air intake). Then, the engine started immediately and, of course, > died soon after. Too much fuel theory confirmed? > > I reconnected the (fuel injector) connectors and the engine started > immediately. > > So, my conclusion is that the Temp II sensor is telling the ECU that the > engine is cold (even when it's hot), therefore too much fuel is being dumped > on the pistons. It's a new Temp II sensor, so I'll put in the old one and > see if there's a difference (you know what they (we) say about new > parts...) > > However, I s'pose it's possible that the Temp II sensor is fine and that my > ECU is not signaling correctly. Or...maybe it's not the ECU, but maybe it's > the connector to the ECU? So, it's time to dig deep with the volt/ammeter. > > What say you? > _________________ > Skip > 1984 Westy 1.9 case WBXR Manual (now with 2200cc GoWesty kit) > Since 26 July 2011 > -- Neil n 65 kb image Myford Ready For Assembly http://tinyurl.com/64sx4rp '88 Slate Blue Westy to be named. '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ Vanagon VAG Gas I4/VR Swap Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines
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