Just because they are brand new does not mean the threaded stud is pulling out of the pot metal same as where you were with the original mirrors. It only has to pull out a fraction of an inch to loose your "grip".� I think it is a design flaw that was "corrected" when VW switched to the aerodynamic mirror housings.

I have heard of other treatments like adding a rubber washer to the ball/socket area....never tried that....the pinning as described in my earlier email ended the problem for me.� It's Better than new in my opinion.

Rich
San Diego

--- On Wed, 9/5/12, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

From: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Power mirrors on an '85?
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Date: Wednesday, September 5, 2012, 3:25 PM

These mirrors are brand new, and have to be tightened to full spring
compression and then some.���Now I can barely adjust them, but any slack in
the nut leads to flopping. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Malcolm Stebbins
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 11:52 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Power mirrors on an '85?

The archives are full of "how to Fix" floppy mirrors.� here is m2cw:

http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0611A&L=vanagon&P=R4385

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>--- On Wed, 9/5/12, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>From: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
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>I've got new mirrors from BD on my rig, and I've had to tighten down 
>the stud to the point I may pull it out to keep them from flopping back 
>at 65 mph.� Anyone put on mirrors from a later van?� It might be worth 
>it even if I just left them manual.�� Stuart� '85 Westy
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