I hear dualing banjo's somewhere in the background.....

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From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of
OlRivrRat
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:37 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: For you paddlers--a petition

        If you read through the link I provided ~ here it is again

  http://www.nationalrivers.org/us-law-who-owns.htm

you will see that it is quite clear that the Public has the right to the use

of rivers for transportation purposes ~ it is your right, it is up to you as

to how far you wish to pursue that right

        Here is a link specific to Virginia&DC

http://www.nationalrivers.org/states/va-law.htm

        I do understand what you are saying, though, I would not choose

to confront the guy with the DoubleBarrel but I would sure not be against

making the Law go have a Heart2Heart with him to let him know he has

no legal right to keep boaters off the river or off a portage around a
falls.

On 14 Sep , 2012, at 11:07 AM, Mark Dearing wrote:

> tell that to the law here in virginia or to the old guy standing on
> the side of the creek with the double barrel shotgun , normally right
> at fools
> fall  a good 15 ft drop.  maybe with Virginia being a commonwealth
> state it
> is different  later mark d
>
>
> In a message dated 9/14/2012 12:35:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET writes:
>
> This from AmericanRivers.org
>
> 4) Who owns America's  rivers?
>
> You do! Rivers that are physically navigable by canoe, kayak,  and
> raft are in the public domain, up to the high water mark. Access  to
> the rivers may be over private land, so you have to find a public
> access point, but once you're on that river you're home free. So get
> out there Americans, and enjoy your rivers!
>
> This is more in depth from NationOrganizationForRivers ~  NORS
>
> http://www.nationalrivers.org/us-law-who-owns.htm
>
> http://www.nationalrivers.org/us-law-menu.htm
>
> ORR ~ DeanB
>
>
>
> On 14 Sep , 2012, at 7:24 AM, Mark Dearing  wrote:
>
>> Hello Jim  think that is bad try being in Virginia  where they can
>> close a class 5 whitewater creek  using a Kings grant ( if a single
>> person
>> owns   both
>> sides he can claim the whole creek),which is what has happened  to
>> johns creek .  This creek is one of the  best,drops 165 ft a mile for
>> 4.5 miles,  35 named  rapids,  bambi meets godzilla being one. he did
>> this after the AWA had bought property and built a parking lot and
>> change  house.  damn shame later  mark  d
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 9/14/2012 9:04:30 A.M. Eastern  Daylight Time,
>> jim.felder@GMAIL.COM writes:
>>
>> I  hope  this is OK with the moderators.
>>
>> I have an online  petition going to try  to make the US Army Corps of
>> Engineers  reverse their decision to close the  locks on the Alabama
>> rivers to recreational traffic. The link is
>>
> <http://www.change.org/petitions/alabama-scenic-river-trail-push-back-
> against-closing-alabama-river-locks-to-recreational-
>> traffic>
>>
>> Sent  from my diesel Westy in  Chickasabogue  Alabama

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