The Business Model from most cars now is to NOT be serviceable outside a
dealership.The Business Model calls for you to pay and pay again.   First
for the vehicle, then the extended service policy and then to replace the
vehicle when the warranty expires or the service contract comes due again.
    I think the Porsche Boxster has to have the engine out to change the
spark plugs..  A lot of vehicles need a dealer key to unlock the software
in the EMS to diagnose problems, and they won't run properly till all the
faults are cleared....by the dealer, of course.   Even governments are
trying to get into forcing us to replace vehicles rather than repair
them....Older trucks can't haul freight in California, for instance.."Cash
for Clunkers" remember that?   I saw lots of nice vehicles getting crushed
rather than upgraded or repaired...
  Our Disposable Society..."don't fix anything, just chuck it and get a new
one"

   We're all dinosaurs, us people who actually fix our own vehicles....
  Don Hanson

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:57 PM, MICHAEL H <vwdash80@yahoo.com> wrote:

>  I shudder to think of the cost(s) of any of my vehicles if I didn't know
> which end of the wrench turns the bolt . it would be parts OR labor ...
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 7:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Purchase price is just the down payment
>
> What would those repairs have cost if you had to outsource the labor? For
> many first time Vanagon owners this cost of ownership is not often thought
> of.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Robert Stevens
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 1:50 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Purchase price is just the down payment
>