

| Subject: | Re: loose rear axle nut |
| From: | Mike B |
| Date: | Thu, 15 Nov 2012 13:55:32 -0500 |
NEVER tighten your axle nut with an impact driver! 1.) You can never be sure of the exact torque. 2.) You can strip the threads. ONLY use a proper torque wrench and manually apply the force to tighten it. If none is available, use a 3/4" drive 46mm socket and breaker bar with a cheater pipe that fits over the bar. Foot/ pounds is calculated by so many pounds applied at so many feet from the fastener; so my 225 lb. body standing (NOT jumping!) on the spot on a bar that's 2 feet from the center of the axle nut will be applying 450 ft/lbs of torque to the nut. (or your 150 lb body standing 3 feet out will apply 450 ft/lbs.; so weight X distance = torque applied) , this simple method has worked for me for over 30 years with no fancy torque wrenches or impact guns. I've broken many 1/2" drive ratchets and breaker bars doing Beetle 36mm axle nuts to 235 ft/lbs and bought 3/4" drive stuff a couple of years ago. Craftsman and Snap-On have always replaced them under warrantee, even though I kept breaking them for years. Also, NEVER back off this torque to align the cotter-pin holes, ALWAYS tighten them further to line it up with the next hole. You will likely find that it takes a LOT more torque to break them loose, and you can use an impact driver to loosen them or an axle-nut beater tool, but some folks think that this damages your axle bearings. I never had this happen to me, but YMMV. Mike B. On 11/15/2012 12:45 PM, Stuart MacMillan wrote: > Yes, replace all of the parts! This is what can happen if a rear wheel > falls off at 65 mph (FF to 1:34): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGKlWqSadlQ > > > Last time I did this job I rented a 3/4 drive electric impact driver and > bought a socket. > > Stuart > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > Jeff Lincoln > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 6:25 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: loose rear axle nut > > John, > > Listen to these guys!!!! I recently had to replace my rear wheel bearings - > when I put everything back together I must not have gotten that nut to the > proper torque. Everything seemed fine for a while and then I started to hear > rumbling while on a trip. We were 3 hours from home when I stopped to check > it and saw that one side of the cotter pin had been sheared off!!!! > That nut was loose as hell. We got some help and did the best we could and > litterally limped home. > > The bearings I had just put in looked good still but I replaced tyhem anyway > - along with the hub and stub. > > When you go to put that all back together you might think 360 ft lbs is over > kill but it is not. I wasn't smart enough to figure out the math of my > weight and how long of a breaker I needed. So I just borrowd a super heavy > duty torque wrench from a friend. It went up to 450 or 600 ft lbs or > something like that. I tell you when I got the wrench to 360 it was still a > way before I hit the next cotter pin slot - I don't remember exactly but I > was over 380 ft lbs by the time I got to that next slot. > > Good luck! > > > -- > Thanks, > > Jeff > '85 GL (Gertie) > '78 Bus (Melissa) Patty's Bus
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