I agree ...
'these will work' would be more accurate.
to their credit they so say they havn't been able to get the right
longer bolts for the front with 19mm hex head.
or at least not at that low 2 dollar price I'm sure.

as I have stated my issue about 'total accuracy and truth' is that the
cone area is smaller than a real alloy wheel nut or bolt.  I like Van
Cafe quite a lot though ..
I could almost say they are the only vendor that I've dealt with that
doesn't make mistakes or sell stuff that doesn't really fit or work.
There are some vendors of conversion parts ..the part out of the box is
almost never ( ok ...'seldom' ) really exactly rightand requires some
grinding or fine tuning about fit and function.

but for 2 bucks a bolt or nut, sure can't complain.
and I do have to make sure I have a lug wrench of socket for both 17 and
19mm - not too big a penalty.
And I wouldn't feel right mounting alloy 14's with these bolts and nuts.
They ain't really the same.

On 1/7/2013 12:01 PM, Stuart MacMillan wrote:
> So true, but all my cars have an extendable lug wrench kit anyway for the
> extra leverage.  Worth the $20 they cost!
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben T [mailto:syncro@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:45 AM
> To: Stuart MacMillan
> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: What lugs do Carat Alloys need?
>
> >From Van Cafe ad copy:
>
> "This is the correct wheel hardware for factory 14"" alloys and all 15""
> alloys on the market. "
>
> They really should say something like, "This should work..." or "...will
> work" because these are technically not the 'correct' hardware. If it was,
> you wouldn't have to carry a separate wrench for the front and another the
> rear.
>
> The CORRECT hardware has a 19mm hexhead. Just saying...
>
>
> BenT
>
> sent from my electronic leash
>
> On Jan 7, 2013, at 8:19 AM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>> Yes, these are for the Carat wheels:
>>
> http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_784_549/alloy_wheel_lug_bolt_each.html
>> and
>>
> http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_784_549/alloy_wheel_lug_bolt_each.html
>