> heck ...
> doesn't everybody learn slipperydriving skills by doing donuts in an
> empty parking lot at the first snow ?
> like when they are 18 ?
> I thought every one did.
> now ..lol..
> a modern car won't even let you do that !!

Bat Turns, we called them.

Lisa Bloch
lab@rynth.org
'89 camper 2.1L automatic