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Subject:Re: Noisy Valve lifters
From:John Goubeaux
Date:Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:43:02 -0800

Well this is the belief that goWesty espouses (via their website). They
are also recommending  RedLine Synthetic 15W/50 for their engines after
the 10K break in period too.
  Pricey lubricant SO  I am wondering if there is evidence to show it is
worth the cost ?

-john
> Speaking of, do you believe in the 'between the marks' as the better oil
> level ( waterboxer engine ) and the max line as the 'never exceed' mark ?
>
>
> On 2/5/2013 1:41 PM, Stuart MacMillan wrote:
>> That’s the old school method, right off the instructions of the can,
>> at least in those days.  It’s a light solvent oil, and will get past
>> the rings more than motor oil (supposedly cleaning the oil sweep
>> rings too).  I just want to be sure people check their oil every 500
>> mi if they do this, it usually lasted 2000 miles before it was half a
>> quart low.
>>
>>
>>
>> Stuart
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>>
>> From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans [mailto:scottdaniel@turbovans.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:03 PM
>> To: Stuart MacMillan
>> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Noisy Valve lifters
>>
>>
>>
>> That sounds like a lot of Marvel Mystery Oil to me..a whole qt.
>> I don't think I ever use over 1/3 of a qt max as a treatment.
>> I can't remember the last time I saw an engine use a qt of oil in 500
>> miles.
>> I'm not driving 2,000 miles a month either though.
>>
>> On 2/5/2013 11:54 AM, Stuart MacMillan wrote:
>>
>> Yep, I've owned a '78, '84 (three engines), and now an '85.  All five
>> engines had this issue, including both a freshly rebuilt 2.0 air
>> cooled and a 2.1 WBX engine, both with new lifters.  The '78
>> production shop rebuild also had piston slap, but that's another
>> issue (crappy aftermarket pistons and cylinders, still the bane of
>> any rebuild).
>>
>> It's best to drive at a decent speed until the lifters pump up, like
>> on the freeway.  It can take my '85 20 minutes to stop clacking.
>> I've had some relief from using MMO in the past (a quart replacing a
>> quart of oil at oil change, and topping off with oil every 500 miles
>> or so as it burns off), but it could be my imagination.  I'll try it
>> with the '85 and see what happens. Shouldn't need to do this with a
>> fresh rebuild though.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>> Behalf Of John Goubeaux
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:05 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Noisy Valve lifters
>>
>> Yes, I was not necessarily doubting anyone's explanation BUT rather
>> since I paid good money for a rebuilt engine thought it a reasonable
>> question to ask, especially of the folks who sell the rebuilt engines.
>>
>> Thanks for the input.
>>
>> -john
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