My apologies. My "engine off" comment was wrong. This relay is
controlled via a switched ground connection at dash so I can use it
engine off, transmission in any gear.

Just spent some quality time making a diagram with new software. This
is accurate as I can make it look (i.e. wire join position). Please
advise if you see a fault:

https://picasaweb.google.com/musomuso/MiscVanagonWestyPics#slideshow/5846072169828098082

or:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NNbtZhVBbRc/USFrqiXmoCI/AAAAAAAAG8g/TBQ_KBREv74/s576/Back%2520Up%2520Light%2520Relay%2520%252B%2520Added%2520Circuits%2520j.jpg

In case links don't work, the 5 pin relay mounted forward of the
p-side tail light is switched at dash (ground) and turns on a new back
up light. Dash switch off, relay switch is closed to 87a so thought
I'd put the 87a wire to good use. The 87a + circuit will power things
like trouble light, compressor etc. Outlet will be here:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qPdIzZgxrFY/UR_k7-An-KI/AAAAAAAAG7Q/zuzkWdSefEA/s576/12%2520Volt%2520Outlet.jpg

The downside is that when back up light on, I can't use the new 12
Volt outlet. But that's easy to work around.

Hope that's clear as mud!

Neil.

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:

> So what's the purpose of using the relay for this power socket? To turn it
> off when you turn the backup light on? If using a switch and the relay is
> also up front then why the relay?
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> neil n
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:03 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: 12 Volt + Wire Up Rear Pillar? (vent)

> 87a of relay is normally closed. As is, the wire from 87a is taped and
> firmly cable strapped to the relay body well away from any metal.
> But.....
>
> Since this wire is #12, and NC engine off, it would be prime for a 12 Volt
> outlet tucked up on RH side of rear upper Westy shelf

--
Neil n

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