

| Subject: | Re: Black Box Relay question |
| From: | neil n |
| Date: | Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:22:45 -0700 |
Cool. Sure sounds like an issue with wires or connections at relays. But..... FWIW, on my Jetta swap, a failed solder joint in a relay and breaking hard wire in another caused intermittent starts. Relays were NOT mounted in sockets. Bottom line: vibration-movement very likely exacerbated things hastening BOTH relays to fail intermittently. I really doubt this is the case with your situation but it can happen under the wrong circumstances. images of failed ECU and FP relay starting here: https://picasaweb.google.com/musomuso/EngineConversionJettaABA20#5841709942616190354 Neil. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:00 PM, John Meeks <vanagon@gmail.com> wrote: > BTW the whole circuit started working while I was moving those relays around > testing voltages and grounds. I'm guessing the fault lies in the wire bundle > just ahead of the back box that took some heat in the fire. Till I can get > in there at least I know what to wiggle if it quits. > > I put the pro training pdf on my phone ;-) > > John Meeks > '91 Multivan > Stock 2.1 250k miles > > http://www.vanagonauts.com > Vanagon Rescue Squad > iPhone and Android apps > > On Mar 11, 2013 4:17 PM, "neil n" <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hey John. >> >> Though you've found out, for the rest, the power (ECU) relay has 5 >> pins after '88/89. >> >> I think there's a changeover in '88 as my '88 has a 4 pin relay. >> Van-cafe shows this: >> >> >> http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_1126_750/cooling_fan_relay_88_thru_91_ecu_relay.html >> >> Neil. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:05 PM, John Meeks <vanagon@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > The fuel pump relay is inboard, closer to the engine. >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Neil n >> >> 65 kb image Myford Ready For Assembly http://tinyurl.com/64sx4rp >> >> '88 Slate Blue Westy to be named. >> >> '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ >> >> Vanagon VAG Gas I4/VR Swap Google Group: >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines -- Neil n 65 kb image Myford Ready For Assembly http://tinyurl.com/64sx4rp '88 Slate Blue Westy to be named. '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ Vanagon VAG Gas I4/VR Swap Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines
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