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Subject:Re: Stock 2.1 in NC
From:Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Date:Sun, 14 Apr 2013 16:54:31 -0700

what is so bad about towing a manual trans 2WD vanagon with rear wheels
on the ground..
as long as gear oil is full ...?  and it's in neutral .

On 4/14/2013 4:01 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
> Hopefully you didn't tow it with the rear wheels down and the axle shafts in
> place.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Steve Cotsford
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 5:18 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Stock 2.1 in NC
>
> Well it seems I misspoke.  The mount I have works both with the 2wd engine
> and the syncro.  As you say, it is the mustache bar that is different.
>
> The way the bar is sitting, supporting the transmission for towing, there is
> a stud welded roughly in the center.  This points towards the tranny and
> fouls the aluminum bracket.   However by turning the mustache bar around,
> the stud points backwards and there is no interference ....duh.    The
> mustache bar came with the van so I'm sure it was the original.     Probably
> that stud is used to hold the heat shield.      I need to take my time and
> get things right !
>
> If you have ever crossed Nebraska, South Dakota, Kansas etc you will
> appreciate a cruise control even if its just to not get cramps in your right
> calf!  At least I do :-)     Just yesterday pulling the van on a Uhaul dolly
> behind my Land Rover at 55 for 5 hours, I was happy to have cruise.  I'm
> used to being in the other lane.
>
> Steve
>
> On Apr 14, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,.
>> the muffler head shield attaches to the bolts that go through the rear
> engine mounting bar where the rubber mounts are.  Then it attaches to the
> body and other sheet metal pieces with screws,  threaded into the body, and
> sheet metal                         type to the side splash guards.
>> If you have a syncro Mustache Bar, aka engine mnt bar ...the sycnro one is
> 'dropped' about 2 inches compared to the 2WD version.   Either shorten it on
> the ends by welding, or get a 2WD one.
>> All sycnro parts are pretty valuable, IMO.
>>
>> Rubber mounts are all the same, 2WD and Syncro ..on the engine bar.
>>
>> the muffler heat shield ..the syncro one is longer top-to-bottom compared
> to 2WD.
>> Both the 2.1 and 1.9 wbxr 2WD heat shield will fit just fine. I have lots
> of those.
>> I have cruise control vaccuum actuators too.
>>   I can drive about 5 times smoother and more intelligently that CC,  so I
> never use it  myself..
>> or just for entertainment or tedium  relief.
>> < I may post on how UNsmoothly I see people driving vanagons when I ride
> with them sometimes. Many people are pretty clutzy by my standards ...which
> is all about being easy on the equipment, which doesn't have to mean driving
> slow                                                           or like an
> old fuddy-duddy either. )
>> the Bentley manual is not perfect, but you have to have one for sure
> anyway.  It's not really a 'how to' manual .
>> That book 'should' or could tell a whole lot more about where things are,
>> what various connectors look like etc.   It's more a technical manual ..
>> how to test things.  They don't tell you particularily say, now to replace
> a water pump or clutch.
>> They do cover engine removal ..
>> In any case, it all helps ..all the info you can get.
>>
>> Pretty impressive if people can fix vanagons without having another one
> anywhere to look at now and then.
>> I have 15 of them, work on them exclusively full time..
>> and I'll still go see which way some wire or line lays or whatever ,
> frequently, on another van.
>> Scott
>> turbovans
>>
>>
>> On 4/14/2013 12:38 PM, Steve Cotsford wrote:
>>> I know that the exhaust is not there and it looks like I am missing the
> heat shield as well.  Does it attach to the muffler or engine?
>>> I think I have a syncro engine mount assembly ( the part that bolts to
> the front of the engine)as it cannot fit to the engine mount tubular metal
> assembly that I have.  I'm guessing that the 2wd engine mounts are
> completely different.  The rubber mounts that I have may fit both versions
> and the muffler bracket too.   I am also in need of a cruise control vacuum
> actuator and bracket.   Electronics are there.
>>> I have a large part of the bits worked out in my mind and several
> connectors are thoughtfully labelled.
>>>

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