Yes I am well aware of the Germanic owner non-Vanagon over the top
expedition vehicles, as I previously mentioned. I have seen tons of
those over the last 10 years or so, more all the time. I was talking
about world travelers I have run into in Vanagons, as well as earlier VW
vans, and comparing them to USA/CA VW van travelers I have run into.
Those giant tire machines are an entirely different class and I often
wonder just how useful their extreme capabilities turn out to be on
their actual trip.

Mark

Gary Peebles wrote:
> Being a world tourist in a Vanagon myself, I disagree about USA/Can =
> travelers vs. others being overly prepared with doodads etc.... While =
> traveling in South America, we saw the most outrageous non Vanagon =
> vehicles. Germans, Swiss, and a couple of French Over landers (shipped =
> their rigs) spent up to two years traveling around with big, HUGE 6x6 =
> trucks(Mercedes, Mann, and some smaller 4x4 Toyota camper vans) They =
> were like totally over kill. The Busses that we met on the road from =
> the US or Can, Westys mostly were winging it with minimal additions.......