In Quebec it is illegal to put Freon or top off a system that has not been
leak tested and it might be for the rest of Canada as well.

Eric Ley
Garage Mechanic ELM
2001 Demers Franklin, Qc

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From: "Stephen Grisanti" <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 11:17 AM
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Subject:      Re: A/C tools question

> " But oddly enough it's not illegal to top off a known leaky system even
> though you are indirectly doing the same thing!"
> May not be illegal but it seems like "responsible" shops refuse to do it.
> Even the guys who gave me the scary-high repair estimate would not top off
> the original R12 and send me on my way with the bill for that fix.  That
> is what prompted me to try the cheapo R134a conversion in the first place.
> Stephen
>
> --- On Thu, 5/9/13, Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET> wrote:
>
> From: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
> Subject: Re: A/C tools question
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Date: Thursday, May 9, 2013, 10:24 PM
>
> When R12 was more common I used to borrow a friend's setup & give him the
> reclaimed R12 for the trouble. These days I would have a shop pull a
> vacuum.
>
> Just remember a "empty" R12 system is still full of R12, it's just R12 at
> atmospheric pressure of ~14.6 PSI. And it's just as illegal to
> intentionally vent that gas into the atmosphere as it is to vent
> pressurized gas into the atmosphere. But oddly enough it's not illegal to
> top off a known leaky system even though you are indirectly doing the same
> thing!
>
> Thanks, Tom Hargrave
> www.stir-plate.com
> www.towercooler.com
> www.kegkits.com
> www.grow-sun.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of
> Todd Last
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:21 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: A/C tools question
>
> For those who work on their A/C, how do you recover the refrigerant and
> evacuate the system so you can do repairs?
> Does anyone own their own A/C recovery unit? Or do you take it to the
> local A/C shop?
>
> What are the best strategies & what are the favorite tools?
> For example, if you need to replace the compressor - what it the best DIY
> strategy?
>
> BTW - if you want to buy R-12 you have to get EPA609 certification.
> http://www.epatest.com/609/
>
>
> thanks,
> Todd
> '88 Westy
>
>
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