I've read these descriptions before but pics sure would make life easier.:-)

The mount I mentioned appeared quite old. I don't think Greaseworks was around when this conversion was done. I'll take pics and post as soon as my Internet connection is restored.

BenT
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On May 15, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

> that left side support  could be the one greaseworks was having fabricated and then they sold them, or put them on their conversions   . ..that left side big engine bracket, to replace the stock aluminum one there. 
> I think they were 350 bucks even.  
> 
> There are at least 4 variations of bars that I know of ..
> 
> 1. stock US model 82 DV .....both bars rubber-mounted at both ends, under tie-bar, small rubber mounts.
> 
> 2. stock US 83 5 speed model......solid-end bars, no under tie-bar, big rubber mounts , huge 14mm diameter bolts going through the rubber mounts .  ( the engine also is mounted 2 inches further aft in the 83 model ..due to the 5 speed trans being 2 inches longer than the 82 4 speed. 
>   (  Very conveniently ..this is the                                                           exact same fore-aft location that                                                           an 83 and later water boxer uses ..
> this means an 83 diesel 5 speed                                                           tans, and engine bars ,  will fall right into any 83 and later 2WD waterboxer vanagon..but the 5 speed does not just fit  right into an 82 vanagon.  )  
> 
> 3. a euro version with solid-ends bar on one side ( right side I think ) , rubber mounted ends on                                                           the other bar, and big rubber mounts.
> 
> 4.  a euro syncro version ...bars                                                           mount engine lower, there are tabs on the rear ends of the bars to mount the skid plate to.  Large rubber mounts. 
> 
> So it is possible to have a matched set where one bar is solid on both ends, and the other is mounted in rubber with brackets at both ends. ( see # 3                                                           )