

| Subject: | Re: Victor Reinz full gasket kit concern (2.1 wbx) |
| From: | Old Volks Home |
| Date: | Fri, 7 Jun 2013 20:03:37 -0700 |
Good to know this. I have a spare Reinz Wbxr Gasket Set along with a few Brazilian and German (Elring) 1600 Gasket Sets in my stash. When I get the time, I will pull the OP gaskets from each kit to measure and in addition, measure the individual gaskets on the shelf at work. The Oil Pump for the 72-79 1600 w/Dished Camshaft is the same as for the Wasserboxer, therefore the gaskets *should* be the same. -- Jim Thompson 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria" 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt" 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug" 75 914 1.8 "Nancy" Full Timing From March 1999 To January 2012 oldvolkshome@gmail.com http://www.oldvolkshome.com Find me on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Thompson/100000710343835 *********************************** On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not sure if this is a known issue or even an important one, but I > discovered something about the oil pump cover gasket in the Victor Reinz > full gasket kit. > > I've just finished a head replacement in my old 2.1 engine. I replaced the > oil pump cover gasket during the process. I measured the clearance of the > pump gears to be between 0.002" and 0.003" so I elected to use the gasket > instead of going commando as Tencentlife on the Samba has recommended. I > did use the correct gasket, I did not mix up the front and rear gaskets. > > So when I finally started the engine I had very low oil pressure. Cold > idle was 25 psi, cold max pressure was 60 psi. > When hot, oil pressure was close to zero, max was 25 psi. With oil temp > >80C, and at 2000 rpm, oil pressure was 25 psi. > > You can imagine my concern. > > I pulled the engine carrier, muffler, and damn skid plate (its a syncro) > to get at the oil pressure relief valve. I was grasping at straws you > understand, and I pulled the spring and piston (no, the piston was not > stuck). The spring was 59.3mm long. There are threads the Samba that gave > me the hope that perhaps shimming (in lieu of a new spring) the spring > would boost pressure a little. > I made a shim from brass which added 3mm to spring length. > > I re-connected muffler (supported on jack stands) and started engine. I > got 30 psi cold at idle, max 75 psi. Hot pressures were 7-10 psi idle, 45 > psi max, and just shy of 20 psi at 2000 rpm. > > Improved but still not right. A new filter added maybe 2 psi to all values. > > Oh, I should mention I was using 15w-40 oil, my winter oil. > > Then I pulled the cover from the oil pump. I was *this* close to putting > it back on sans gasket, but I decided to use a 0.004" gasket I got from > local mechanic. I did not have this gasket before. > > Ok, added a little grease to pump gears (to help in priming), all the > other things all put back on, coolant replaced, oil replaced. > > Engine start... cold pressures: idle 70 psi, max 90 psi. Hot pressures, > idle 20 psi, max 60 psi, a solid 30 psi at 2000 rpm. > > (engine is old, only the heads were replaced, case not split) > > I'm happy with these pressures. > > So back, finally, to the gasket. I measured the gasket I removed and it > was 0.011" thick. The back of the pump gasket (unused) was 0.012" thick. > > It looks like, at least in the kit I got, the thicknesses of the rear and > front gaskets for the oil pump were the same. > > I don't know if this is a mistake on the part of Victor Reinz, but in my > case the thick gasket resulted in very poor oil pressure. > > I hope this helps someone, > > cheers > > alistair
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