---- Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> Dave's right. They're not all that bad if they are in good condition. Yeah,
> when it gets to be a hundred in the van, you're not going to get ask cold
> as on a 50 degree day, nor will you with anything else I know of.
>
> It's about like any camper refrigerator, really. If you really want cold
> like you have at home, and I guess that's what people camping expect
> nowadays, there are plenty of expensive modern all-electric refrigerators
> that will really do the job. Be prepared to spend a lot of your resources
> to get the job done. There is a ton of stuff in the archives on the subject.
>
>
>
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> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Jim, what do you mean by, ".......... the Westy's, which is pretty weak"?
> >
> > If you mean the refrigerator is "pretty weak," I disagree.

<lots of stuff cut out>

Oh, and I meant to mention that if I will be longer than 2-3 days, I still can take meats, I just am judicious about what kinds and I keep them in the ice box which usually will hold my jug ice for 5 days.  The main reason I put the meats in the ice box when I am out longer is that I have the refrigerator as full as is reasonable with other stuff.

Anything longer than five days or so requires replenishment of perishables anyway, given the space limitations.  I also do not bother with mundane perishables like milk, since I can use milk powder for cooking and cereal, anyway.

A couple recently told me that they removed the refrigerator to get the space for other storage, and now rely only on an ice chest.  They use a Yeti, and can get five days with cube ice.  Given that, I should be able to get maybe 7-8 days or longer with my ice jugs if I spend for a Yeti.  I have been putting that off until next time I travel to grizzly country.  I am sure that the cube ice that they get 5 days with is not the soft stuff made in an in store ice maker, but rather factory ice stored at 0 F until bought.

David McNeely