

| Subject: | Re: cooperative Westy ownership? |
| From: | JRodgers |
| Date: | Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:56:09 -0500 |
The Henry J was my high school buddy's first car. His did got it for him -used - and I seem to recall it had a Willis engine in the thing. Ran good. Did well, but he traded for a 47 chevy with lots more room - and power - if there was such a thing in a 47 Chevy. John On 6/17/2013 6:30 PM, Dave Mcneely wrote: > ---- Mark Hersh <cmwolfsburg@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >> Thanks for all the replies. Just to clarify: I'm not considering going in >> to this group -- I have a Westy already, with plenty of sweat and $ poured >> into it. >> >> But there are lots of good points here for my neighbor to consider. >> >> Mark >> >> PS Was a Henry J named after Henry J Kaiser? > > > Yes. He was the chief executive of the company that built the ill fated vehicle. It sold so poorly, that the company even enlisted Sears as a dealer, but Sears insisted on attaching its own name, Allstate, to the vehicle. My brother had one under that name, too. > They were in some way involved with Wyllis I believe. My father had one of those. There were Wyllis vehicles other than Jeeps. > >> I know I could wiki it but >> the name just poppped into my head.... My only knowledge of the car comes >> from the section in my dad's 1954 Motors repair manual. >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:42 AM, forum email <nij.forum@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Question 1) how well do you know the people in the group? >>> Eventually something will go wrong in the dynamic and then its potential >>> for being a mess is very high. >>> >>> 2) how many people in the co-op? >>> Most people do NOT want to camp outside the good months so you need to set >>> up a timeshare thing where weeks are allocated in advance, the most >>> desirable weeks have a higher cost. If you lived in Roanoke VA everyone >>> would probably want the Natural Bus weekend. >>> >>> 3) Will all in the co-op understand what it takes to drive a 25-35 year old >>> vehicle? >>> You would need to decide in advance if its a co-op then any repairs are the >>> groups responsibility, not just the driver at that moment. >>> >>> 4)insurance? >>> Good luck finding a policy to cover this. If its titled by one person and >>> they hold they hold the insurance, who ends up with the liability if >>> something really bad happens. >>> >>> I could spend hours and pages listing the Pros and the Cons. They are some >>> wonderful advantages to sharing, but they are also some huge drawbacks as >>> well. >>> >>> In the end it comes down to you? >>> >>> Nij >>> On Jun 17, 2013 9:02 AM, "kenneth wilford (Van-Again)" < >>> kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I would not do this. My sister had a Westy rental business for a couple >>> of >>>> summers and really what we found out is that you have to be really picky >>>> who you rent to. The person needs to have common sense and also treat >>> the >>>> vehicle with a small modicum of care (like pulling over when belts break >>> or >>>> lights are flashing). We had customers abandon vans as far away as Maine >>>> (from NJ) and then demand free rentals, etc. all because they had lights >>>> flashing, strange noises, and refused to stop and check them out. When >>>> people rent or borrow a vehicle it is not the same level or ownership >>> pride >>>> or care that you have some a person who has a lot of time, effort and >>> money >>>> invested in something. Instead they have more of a "I can do anything I >>>> want because I paid money." attitude which isn't helpful in keeping a >>>> Vanagon alive and well. >>>> >>>> Just my opinion, >>>> Ken Wilford >>>> John 3:16 >>>> www.vanagain.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Mark Hersh <cmwolfsburg@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So at a neighborhood BBQ tonight, someone (a neighbor that admires our >>>>> camper) came up to meand said they were thinking of trying to get >>>> together >>>>> a small "cooperative" with the purpose of joint ownership of a camper. >>>>> Figuring that they would all pay in for maintenance, cleaning, etc., >>> and >>>>> knowing they would have to come up with some reasonably democratic and >>>> fair >>>>> way to allocate time slots. >>>>> >>>>> Seemed like a reasonable enough idea to me to volunteer to put it out >>> to >>>>> the group (because I'm not about to volunteer my camper!). >>>>> >>>>> Anyone have any experience with such a thing, or know of such a thing? >>>> A >>>>> Google search came up with a couple interesting leads, but I thought >>> I'd >>>>> ask the collective Vanagon brain trust. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> 86 Campmobile Six-Seater "Monty" >>>>> >>>>> Black dogs are euthanized at a greater rate than other-colored dogs, >>>>> regardless of temperament. Learn about Black Dog Syndrome at >>>>> http://www.blackpearldogs.com/ Learn about black dogs in a Vanagon at >>>>> http://www.pbase.com/mhersh/image/108220533 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Thanks, >>>> Ken Wilford >>>> John 3:16 >>>> www.vanagain.com >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> 86 Campmobile Six-Seater "Monty" >> >> Black dogs are euthanized at a greater rate than other-colored dogs, >> regardless of temperament. Learn about Black Dog Syndrome at >> http://www.blackpearldogs.com/ Learn about black dogs in a Vanagon at >> http://www.pbase.com/mhersh/image/108220533 > > -- > David McNeely >
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