At 07:54 AM 6/19/2013, Loren Busch wrote:
>As for 12v charging the one I have now does not come with a 12v
>adapter BUT it actually uses 12v DC out of the wall wart so I will
>cut the cord and put a connector on the plug that mates with a 12v
>plug and cord ...

I have a number of small devices that use 12VDC wall warts, and I've
done the same.

But remember that those devices may require more closely regulated
12VDC than our vans provide.

When a device that comes with a cigarette lighter plug, that's a
strong clue that it can handle 10.5-14.2VDC that it may encounter in a car.

But when a device only comes with a 12VDC wall wart, it may not
tolerate such a range.  It may work poorly.  It may even be damaged.

Loren, if you and Larry report that charger works well and stays
healthy when powered by a cigarette lighter in your vans, that saves
the rest of us from worrying.

Each new such device, somebody has to be the test pilot!