Big difference between cheap wrenches and better quality ones.   Flare wrenches are great, but you can really buggar up a nut using HF wrenches.  I know, some of their stuff is fine, but some of it is crap, and it's impossible to tell which is which till you've bought it. 

Karl Wolz
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On Jul 10, 2013, at 9:30 AM, Project Pat <psdooley@VERIZON.NET> wrote:

> That's a great idea.
> I usually put the vice grips on the flare nut b/c as others have mentioned,
> line wrenches don't work, they just strip.
> 
> Will have to try this technique next time.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Gregory Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:20 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: 11mm brake line wrench
> 
> A trick I often use with brake line nut wrenches is to place the proper
> wrench on the nut, then clamp the wrench with a vice-grip type of
> locking pliers.  This helps keep the line nut wrench from spreading
> under extreme force.  Really helps when working on 35 y.o. Fiats.  And
> Vanagons.