

| Subject: | Re: burning smell - brakes or tire? |
| From: | Tom Carchrae |
| Date: | Wed, 10 Jul 2013 21:48:57 -0700 |
These calliper bolts are going to kill me. I wish I had Ken's super powers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0NGUkfOg6w On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Tom Carchrae <tom@carchrae.net> wrote: > This pad rating got me curious. Go figure, I didn't think about it before > but makes sense. I don't think I would simply use price => quality. > Reading about pads: http://www.brakewarehouse.com/brkewrhsefaqs.asp - > there are many kinds for many applications. > > I have no idea what the rating of the pads on the van are right now. I > bought some replacements (Bendix D45A) on a previous parts order - I think > they were on sale because they'd been discontinued. I'm not entirely sure > what their rating is. The box says "RG" but that seems strange - is R > really a rating? > > The two letters indicate the cold and hot co-efficient of friction, with > higher being more friction. More friction is better braking, but higher > friction typically means worse performance at higher temperatures: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_pad#Types > > On other things, I'm going to buy a caliper today. The FLAPS (Lordco) has > one at $108 (the no account price) with a core swap - which is reasonable. > I'm not sure if I should do both sides though. Also, thanks Dennis, I'll > measure the rotor. Good point. > > Is it worth flushing the brake system? And if so, with what? > > Tom > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Scott Ohana <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>wrote: > >> Perhaps someone should do extensive testing of braking distance to a >> full stop from say 60 mph , >> on a Vanagon ..but with different pads tried .. >> different brands and grades and prices.. >> and note pedal feel, ability to modulate stopping 'grip' and stopping >> distanceand other attribues. >> >> under controlled circumstances..same van, same road, same temperature .. >> same brake temps even. >> >> some pads are optimized for low cost, >> some for long life, some for no brake dust, some for no sqeual ( or >> combo's ofall these ) >> or stopping power. >> or resistance to fade ..another very important attribute to have in a >> brake pad. >> >> Generally ..the more you pay for a set of pads..the better they will be, >> and deliver the best overall blend of desirable attributes. I stopped >> buying the cheapest stuff, or even somewhat inexpensive stuff, a long >> time ago. >> Doesn't pay really, all factors considered. >> >> lol..a set of pads range between about $ 9 and about $ 90 .. >> I won't be using the cheap ones in any case, personally. >> >> >> On 7/9/2013 8:31 PM, Richard A Jones wrote: >> >>> Dennis wrote: >>> >>>> Stopping ability is more >>>> important than long life. >>>> >>> >>> Perfectly said! >>> >>> But, it's like saying good tires are better than cheap >>> tires. That's the most common reflection of this idea >>> on this list. "What's wrong with this [under-rated] >>> cheaper tire" than a nice [more expensive] 102 rated >>> tire? >>> >>> Fighting Darwin in tiring. Or tire-ing.... ;-) >>> >>> With tires, it is one failed stop--or one flat >>> on a narrow road in Baja with a 12" dropoff on the side-- >>> is worth a LOT more than up-front costs--in hind-sight. >>> With brakes, it is one failed stop is worth a LOT more >>> than cheap overall costs--in hind-sight. >>> >>> Darwin favors those who lack the fore-sight to have hind-sight. >>> You can quote me. >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> >
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