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Subject:Re: Horns, improvements
From:Jim Felder
Date:Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:38:34 -0500

Likewise, I have too many high-quality german relays off of various VWs to
ever buy one again, but where do you get the sockets? None of my spare
relays have a mounting bracket built in, so I either need to add one or
find a socket that will mount to sheet metal.

Jim

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:34 PM, mark drillock <mdrillock@cox.net> wrote:

> The 5th pin labeling of various OEM VW 5 pin relays does not comport to
> the diagrams in that link.
>
> Use of a generic 4 pin "Bosch type" means that the 4 pins are in the
> same orientation on all of the relays that follow that standard and are
> labeled with the same numbers on each of the pins. Many oem relays don't
> follow that standard so the user must have some better idea of what they
> are doing if they use something other than the standard 4 pin.
>
> The standard "Bosch type" 4 pole relays are used in every VW for decades
> so pretty easy to grab at a yard and I have many of them from various
> VWs, OEM. VW stamps them as 53 and 24. I use a lot of the later 53 ones
> for various uses. There are also OEM VW 4 pin relays with other numbers
> that are the functionally similar except for larger male spades on the 2
> high current pins so different wire ends are needed on 2 of the new
> short wires. Examples of those would be VW stamped 18 and 111 types.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> Zeitgeist wrote:
>
>> The four pole relays are available at Flaps, but lots of them are cheap
>> Asian crap that I wouldn't trust.  The most common relays I grab at the
>> local PnP are versions of those two five pole units, so as long as folks
>> know which fifth pole to use or ignore, they open up lots of possibilities
>> for using good quality OEM relays.
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