

| Subject: | Re: RedTek and the Sight Glass |
| From: | Larry Alofs |
| Date: | Fri, 30 Aug 2013 19:13:55 -0400 |
When I first converted my system to 134 and got it working, I put in a new receiver-drier. I don't recall if I looked at the sight glass then. I probably just put in the recommended amount of refrigerant. When I started using butane/propane I think that I saw something on the autorefrigerants website that implied that the sight glass would not be helpful. Since then I have ignored it. Larry A. On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Mike Finkbiner <mike_l_f@hotmail.com>wrote: > Larry - > > That's helpful information. > > Have you ever checked your sight glass? I keep coming back to that > because I have heard conflicting stories. With an R-12 system, you will > likely see bubbles when you start the AC, but then it should look generally > clear while it's running. One RedTek rep said their product behaves the > same, but admitted he was more familiar with household systems. Another > said that it's considerably lighter than R-12, which is why you only use > 1/3 as much (17oz instead of 51), so you will always see bubbles. > > I'm trying to get some field verification from other people using > hydrocarbon blend refrigerants. > > The sight glass is on top of the receiver/dryer, visible through the front > of the rear, driver's side wheel well. I generally use a Q-tip or similar > with a solvent to reach in and clean the glass, then shine a flashlight to > see what's happening. > > Mike Finkbiner > > mike_l_f@hotmail.com > > > > You can't see a thought, you can't measure, weigh, nor > taste it - but thoughts are the most real things in the Galaxy. > - Richard Baslim > > Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 09:08:32 -0400 > Subject: Re: RedTek and the Sight Glass > From: lalofs@gmail.com > To: mike_l_f@hotmail.com > CC: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com > > Mike, I use ES-12a from autorefrigerants.com. I'm not sure, but I am > assuming that RedTek is a similar butane/propane refrigerant.Your pressure > and temperature numbers sound nearly normal to me. My system leaks enough > that I typically add one 6 oz. can per season. When it is well charged, I > usually see a temperature drop of 25 to 30 degrees, measured with an IR gun > at the intake and output at the rear unit (duct to the front has been > removed). > Of course when the sun has been shining on the back of the van and the > intake air is 90 or 100F, the air coming out doesn't feel very cold at > first. After going down the road for a while, it gets caught up and we > start backing off on the fan and the temp control. > > Larry A. > > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Mike Finkbiner <mike_l_f@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > Dennis - > > > > Sadly I have no way to measure the high side pressure. I was hoping to > not have to get set up as an AC tech, and we'll see how it goes. The > radiator fan isn't running at high speed. It would still be interesting > to hear from anyone else who is using RedTek what they are seeing in their > sight glass. > > > > > Today I got a replacement low-pressure valve adapter which doesn't leak > when it's screwed on, so I was able to re-test the pressure. Before > starting the engine, ~ 70 lbs. After starting it dropped to ~ 34 lbs, > right in where the RedTek folks recommend. Not sure why it dropped from > when I was loading the refrigerant, but there it is. > > > > > After running for 10 minutes or so I was getting ~ 52 degrees out of the > vent on fan speed 2. Ambient temperature in the garage ~ 75. I shut up > the engine compartment and went for a drive. After about 15 minutes, the > vent temp was just under 50. > > > > > The condenser up front is pretty clean and seems warm, but not hot. At > this point I think I'm going to run with it for a bit. If it can't drop > more than 25 degrees below interior temperature I gather something isn't > right, but I need to know more about how to dig into the system to find out. > > > > > - Mike > > > > Mike Finkbiner > > > > '87 Westy > > Moscow, Idaho > > mike_l_f@hotmail.com > > > <SNIP> >
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