

| Subject: | Re: Horns, improvements |
| From: | Richard Adams |
| Date: | Sat, 7 Sep 2013 13:56:30 -0700 |
On Aug 20 Mark Drillock wrote about upgrading the Vanagon horn. He mentioned a Hella horn (for Mercedes Benz models) that is far more powerful than the stock Vanagon horn. Jay Brown (thevwbusguy) then wrote mentioning his horn relay - https://sites.google.com/site/vanagonheadlightrelays/horn-relay I�ve installed them both, and they�ve got to be the least expensive safety upgrade (at $35 total) that I�ll ever make on my '87 Westy, which now speaks with real authority! Richard Adams > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:35:25 -0700 > From: mdrillock@COX.NET > Subject: Horns, improvements > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > The stock Vanagon horn is not that great but can be improved. Simply > adding a relay down by the horn can make a big difference even with the > stock horn. Doing that increases the voltage at the horn as well as > triggers full volume from the horn even when the steering wheel contact > ring or button have only a weak connection. By using the steering wheel > button to simply trigger the relay the button can work with only a small > fraction of the power going through it that the horn itself would need. > Thus the relay can trigger and remain on with a much weaker connection > than the horn itself requires for sounding. With the relay providing the > ground the horn is louder, faster, and more consistent. > > Here is a photo of a horn with the added relay and wiring to increase > horn performance. The 2 existing horn wires plug into this setup. No > additional wires need to be run. The yellow end is a male spade. The 2 > existing horn wires have female ends. The stock black/yellow wire plugs > into the wire with a yellow end. The stock brownish wire plugs into the > remaining relay male spade pin #86. The wire with the ring terminal gets > grounded at the mounting bolt for the horn spring plates. > > http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1101215.jpg > > > The horn in that first photo is actually a larger version of the stock > horn but mounts and wires up the same as a stock horn and in the stock > location. Here are both horns for a comparison. > > http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1101214.jpg > > I purchased that larger Hella horn from this place. I installed it in my > 89 with the added relay. It is now much louder but still has the > familiar sounding beep known to old VWs. > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/HORN-DISC-12V-335HZ-MERCEDES-/280423157106? > > > Of course there are many still louder horns and I like some of the dual > horn setups from various Volvo, Mercedes, BMW, etc I get at the > junkyard. These have a totally different sound of authority but are more > complicated to mount in the stock location. I might get into that at > another time. > > Mark
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