

| Subject: | Re: Runaway Engine RPMs |
| From: | Larry Alofs |
| Date: | Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:28:34 -0400 |
John, If you have access to an ECU to swap in, it might be worth a try. I was struggling with a '91 about a year ago. It had various running/idling problems that I gradually solved; during which I put in an ECU that I had once tested and found to be OK. Suddenly the van refused to idle down properly and nothing I did could fix it until I put the original ECU back in. The idle was not 3K, more like 2300, but way too high. I repeated the swap to be sure and retired that ECU. I looked at the circuit board, but could not see anything suspicious. Larry A. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 4:54 PM, John Meeks <vanagon@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Scott - > > I'll try unplugging the ISV next time it does this. I think that's a good > troubleshooting first step. Not sure yet what it will tell me. I think that > valve just add more more less air to the mix. You can hear the little motor > running in there with the key on. > > It's probably worth inspecting the ECU solder joints with a strong > magnifying glass too. I'll be able to do that this weekend. > > John > > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Scott Daniel <scottdaniel@turbovans.com > >wrote: > > > I sure wouldn't call 3K rpm 'runnaway' ..though it does sound really > > dramtic to discribe it that way. > > if it was really runnaway .. > > it would be screaming at 6,000 rpm or so. > > > > I wouldn't think that the TPS telling the ecu that your at full throttle > > would do this. > > I believe all that does is bypass 02 input at WOT. > > > > And ..I have seen the electronic control unit and/or idle air valve cause > > this. > > I've had a vanagon sitting in a bay of my shop idling .. > > suddenly jump to very high rpm all by itself. > > > > Unplug the Idle Air Valve right there on top of the engine. > > ISV valve sometimes called too. Idle Stabilizer Valve. > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > On 10/10/2013 9:44 AM, John Meeks wrote: > > > > Yesterday I was in a 2 mile stop and go traffic jam. About 3/4 of the way > > the low speed fan came on as expected. A minute later the engine revved > up > > tp 3K rpm and stayed there. The gas pedal was all the way up. Couldn't > get > > off the road so I turned off the engine when there was a stop situation. > > Turning it back on the engine revved right up to 3K again. > > > > Finally pulled into a parking lot and waited about 15 minutes. Started > > normally with no recurrence the rest of the way home. > > > > I had this same problem about a year ago (intermittant) and 'fixed' it > with > > a new throttle cable and cleaning out the rust and dirt from the pedal to > > cable housing. Now it's back! > > > > Side note just put the engine in after head gaskets and ring replacment > > and It was running great for the past week. > > > > Could the TPS be the culprit if it made the ECU see full throttle and ECU > > then enriched the mixture? > > > > Any ideas are welcome. > > > > John Meeks > > '91 Vanagon MV Phoenix > > Stock 2.1 250K miles > > Northern Michigan > > > > Vanagon Rescue Squad < > http://www.vanagonauts.com/Vanagon-Rescue-Squad74.htm> < > http://www.vanagonauts.com/Vanagon-Rescue-Squad74.htm> > > > > Android and iOS apps > > www.vanagonauts.com > > > > > > >
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