

| Subject: | Re: idea? |
| From: | J Stewart |
| Date: | Mon, 28 Oct 2013 01:05:38 +0000 |
I've been doing this for years, and it works very well. Added benefit is the white noise from the a/c when you are camped in a noisy campground. I rigged up my own shelf for very little $$$. Jeff Stewart ----- Original Message ----- > This has already been done. TerryK used to sell an adapter to hang a > regular AC unit in the Westy Passenger van. Hung it off the cargo > carrier up top. You need a small generator (Honda 2000 for instance) > to power it if you don't have AC around. BTW, A Honda 1000 isn't > enough. A Honda 2000 is a very quiet generator. A 50 foot extension > cord to locate it away from your van (and not near anyone elses > hopefully) and you won't even notice it. Especially if you have an AC > blaring away. > On Oct 27, 2013, at 6:45 PM, JRodgers wrote: > > Jim, > > > > > > what would be the prospect having a small 5000 BTU AC unit that > > could be > > mounted in the passenger window of the van when you are stopped and > > camped somewhere. The to power it - tow a small trailer with a > > generator, spare propane, larger tools, bigger tent, etc, etc, and > > when > > not in use the AC unit and the frame for it could also be stored on > > the > > trailer. > > > > John > > > > On 10/26/2013 9:10 AM, Jim Felder wrote: > >> My situation is that I am the Director of the Alabama Scenic River > >> Trail ( > >> www.alabamascenicrivertrail.com). Travel to meetings with Corps of > >> Engineers, City and County officials, landowners and such are part > >> of my > >> job. I put about 10,000 miles a year traveling in places where > >> moteling-it > >> is not an option. Neither is staying at an RV lot. For the most > >> part, all > >> there are are locally run "cornfields" with minimum hookups and > >> often I am > >> the only one in them or nearly so. There are a lot of these in > >> rural > >> Alabama that cater to migrant workers and the flood of builders > >> that follow > >> hurricane and tornado damage., Especially in the south of the > >> state. In the > >> north of the state, I am either home at night or I can stay with a > >> friend > >> or relative. > >> > >> In four years of doing this job, I have not spent one night in a > >> hotel or > >> motel. I have camped hundreds of times in my westy. > >> > >> In a few minutes, daughter, grandson and I will pull out for a > >> nearby > >> National Forest overnight. When we camp, it's usually under > >> conditions that > >> the weather is cool at night. In any event, our real camping (as > >> opposed to > >> work travel) is normally far from phone service much less > >> electricity to > >> run an air conditioner. > >> > >> I use my westy for both, don't see a problem in outfitting it for > >> both. > >> > >> Jim > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Having shore power AC means you probably aren't camping, you are > >>> RV-ing > >>> (at least in MY world). > >>> > >>> My SO was at Camping World (big box outlet store here in the west) > >>> recently, where the counter-person kept trying to sell her a > >>> membership to > >>> Good Sam club...so she could "save money when camping" according > >>> to the > >>> clerk...My SO tried to explain that staying in a commercial RV > >>> space was a > >>> bit different than camping, but the clerk just did not > >>> understand...In the > >>> clerks mind, camping was driving from RV park to RV park on the > >>> interstate > >>> system and plugging everything in each night...'roughing it'... > >>> > >>> I, too use my Vanagon for non-camping bivouacs but if I were > >>> wanting to > >>> 'camp' in Good Samaritan or 1000 Trails or other Non-chain RV > >>> parks all the > >>> while, I guess Dennis might be right...the Vanagon seems a bit > >>> under-sized > >>> for that....and you would be 'looked down upon' by all the other > >>> RV-ers, > >>> quite out of place in your vanagon.. > >>> > >>> I think if I traveled the south in summer I might be tempted to > >>> just > >>> motel-it...It IS really uncomfortably hot and humid there at > >>> times.. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Dennis Haynes > >>> <d23haynes57@hotmail.com > >>>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Most all window AC use a single motor to drive both the > >>>> evaporator and > >>>> condenser fans. You also have to consider the position of the > >>>> coils in > >>>> relationship to the compressor so the oil circulates and travels > >>>> through > >>>> the > >>>> compressor. Needing AC while camped is often the first sign your > >>>> out > >>>> growing > >>>> the Westy. > >>>> > >>>> Dennis > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On > >>>> Behalf > >>> Of > >>>> Jim Felder > >>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 9:07 AM > >>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >>>> Subject: Re: idea? > >>>> > >>>> My brother and I were discussing cutting an AC unit in two and > >>>> mounting > >>>> part > >>>> outside, part inside, under the rear seat. > >>>> > >>>> Also, it would be possible--but more difficult--to mount a split > >>>> unit > >>> like > >>>> that in the luggage rack with only vents down into the cabin, but > >>>> the > >>> cabin > >>>> roof would have to be penetrated and all the controls would have > >>>> to be > >>>> completely remoted. A weather cover would have to be created for > >>>> the > >>>> luggage > >>>> rack mount. While the unit would not have to be "split" like it > >>>> would if > >>>> mounted under the seat (the whole thing would be mounted outside > >>>> the > >>>> vehicle) it would benefit from being rearranged to better fit the > >>>> space > >>> in > >>>> the luggage rack to keep the profile low. > >>>> > >>>> The underseat mount would allow you to use the faceplate of the > >>>> unit just > >>>> as > >>>> it came from the factory as long as it was not more than 13 > >>>> inches tall. > >>>> > >>>> The problem of making up some mounts is not trivial but not much > >>>> harder > >>>> than > >>>> some intercooler mounts. I have a friend who works on this type > >>>> of small > >>>> window unit AC, and he said the only problem would be knowing > >>>> where to > >>> cut > >>>> the lines and then installing the valves and plumbing to allow > >>>> evacuation > >>>> and refill. He said he would show me when we had a unit to look > >>>> at, which > >>>> hasn't happened yet. > >>>> > >>>> You could put one in the closet, too, I think but it wold be even > >>>> harder > >>> to > >>>> split the unit using that space. > >>>> > >>>> Would love to hear from anyone who has modified a unit by cutting > >>>> and > >>>> modifying the tubing. > >>>> > >>>> Jim > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:47 AM, ralph meyermann > >>>> <ralphmeyermann@gmail.com>wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Correct placement is a must for issues like that. If I use the > >>>>> front > >>>>> part of the original unit, it would simplify the controls too? > >>>>> > >>>>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy > >>>>> On Oct 25, 2013 7:40 AM, <ddbjorkman@verizon.net> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Careful how you use that space above the transaxle. It could > >>>>>> cause > >>>>>> a space restriction should you decide to remove the engine or > >>> starter. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dave B. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 10/25/13, ralph meyermann<ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Still thinking/brainstorming/planning on how I could make it > >>>>>> work. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy > >>>>>> On Oct 24, 2013 8:57 PM, "Scott Daniel" > >>>>>> <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> There's quite a bit of unused space above the transaxle in a > >>>>>>> 2WD > >>>>> vanagon. > >>>>>>> huge 'outside' area there ....just integrate the unit into > >>>>>>> that > >>>>>>> rear firewall behind the rear seat. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 10/24/2013 5:33 PM, Mike B wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> You can't integrate "everything" into the interior. The > >>>>>>>> condenser > >>>>>>>> and it's fan still must be mounted outside or be able to > >>>>>>>> exhaust > >>>>>>>> it's hot air to the outside or it won't cool the interior. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 10/24/2013 8:09 PM, ralph meyermann wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi Volks! I have a possibly crazy but possibly doable idea. > >>>>>>>>> I am > >>>>>>>>> thinking about getting a new 110v window a/c unit, > >>>>>>>>> disassembling > >>>>>>>>> it and integrating it into the interior and underneath > >>>>>>>>> reconnect > >>>>>>>>> everything recharge > >>>>> with > >>>>>>>>> refrigerant and tie it into the the 110v of the van. Some > >>>>>>>>> slim > >>>>>>>>> low > >>>>> amp > >>>>>>>>> 110v fans will be needed. Am I the only one thinking with > >>>>>>>>> this > >>>>> possible > >>>>>>>>> nonsense? > >>>>>>>>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>
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