Paying the fees is important since this campground and the toll
booth the the area are operated by American Land & Leisure.  They
want to make $$$$ and the Forest Service wants them to (too) so they
will continue to operate the area.

I'm sure as other older campgrounds are renovated they will move in
this direction.

   Isn't that just great?   Maybe we should outsource our forest service
and public lands to the Chinese or the highest bidder, they are probably
way more efficient than any 'murikan company at making more
money.......after all..."we" have to make money don't "we"? The more the
better?   Heck, just sell  off all the public land...it just costs us all
money, right?

   Personally, I think that is one of the most important things our
government does....keep some decent relatively unspoiled  lands for us all
to use without some "Private Property" sign or "Fee Use Area" signs...

   What's this have to do with Vanagons?   Vanagons will still be able,
maybe, to steath camp in urban alleys when everything else is privatized
and too expensive for all but the one percent......

   Sorry, too political...any replies please come at me via PMail..

On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Richard A Jones <Jones@colorado.edu> wrote:

> Don wrote:
> > I would not be surprised to find any new campsites (should the
> > government ever have any money to expand any of  our forest service camp
> > areas) required to be able to take RVs like that....Then, of course, they
> > will be raising the fees for us all to pay for that...Oh well....
>
> You are 'right on'--it is happening.  The Brainard Lake campground
> in the Indian Peaks W of Boulder was built in the early 60s.  Over
> the last 3 years it has been rebuilt.  It is now 3x larger and most
> of it will handle long rigs.  The Forest Service found that few
> were tent camping and the demand from the big rig RVs was what
> would pay the fees.
>
> Paying the fees is important since this campground and the toll
> booth the the area are operated by American Land & Leisure.  They
> want to make $$$$ and the Forest Service wants them to (too) so they
> will continue to operate the area.
>
> I'm sure as other older campgrounds are renovated they will move in
> this direction.
>
> Richard
> Boulder
>