

| Subject: | Re: 5 speeds, was: Noisy transaxle?? |
| From: | ralph meyermann |
| Date: | Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:39:38 -0500 |
Already swapped to the aaz myself, and up for a challenge as it was a challenge to restore Velma back from being a basket case/wreck of a Westy to begin with. It's handy to have a neighbor who has a nice machine shop, helped him out a bunch with his 1938 Packard and this winter with his 32 Chevy barn find to turn it into a hot rod. Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy On Oct 22, 2013 4:28 PM, "Jim Felder" <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, but if you got EVERYTHING--mounts, shifter, transmission, box, stick, > etc from an 83 it should be a piece of cake, right? the only original piece > in the drivetrain wold be the engine. > > Jim > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:26 PM, mark drillock <mdrillock@cox.net> wrote: > > > As Scott said, changing to a 5 speed is not a simple bolt in starting > > out with an 82 diesel van. The engine is mounted too far forward for the > > longer tranny and there are some complications with the linkage even if > > you get the 5 speed linkage parts. I won't go into all the details but > > it is a project to do it. In 83 they moved the diesel engines back for > > the newer type of trannys and changed a bunch of related things. The 83 > > and newer diesels and waterboxers are built to accept either a 5 speed > > or 4 speed with little other change needed. Earlier vans have some > > issues to deal with. Sorry. > > > > Mark > > > > > > ralph meyermann wrote: > > > >> Think I can handle that pattern, now the hard part of bolting it in and > >> the > >> connection of the shift linkage. > >> > >> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy > >> On Oct 22, 2013 4:08 PM, "Jim Felder" <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> The layout for a factory five-speed is all the way left and forward, > >>> reverse. All the way left and back, first. Forward in the middle slot, > >>> second. Pull back into third. Forward to the right is fourth, and you > >>> pull > >>> back into fifth. Fourth and fifth on all but your very steepest hills, > >>> that's what you get with a five speed. There is no pushing down to > engage > >>> any gears, just click click click. Mine was rebuilt 100K miles ago and > >>> shifts very smoothly and precisely. > >>> > >>> Jim > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:00 PM, ralph meyermann < > >>> ralphmeyermann@gmail.com > >>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>> > >>> so instead of pushing down left and forward for reverse, it would be > >>>> down > >>>> left then back ? I could handle that, Velma is primarily a road > >>>> trip/camping vehicle. This is my first VW and not informed on the > >>>> various > >>>> shift patterns. > >>>> > >>>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy > >>>> On Oct 22, 2013 3:02 PM, "mark drillock" <mdrillock@cox.net> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> There is no way to make 4 gears as useful as 5 for a non-tdi diesel. > >>>>> Spreading out 4 gears to cover the same range as 5 leaves gaps that > the > >>>>> weaker engine can't deal with. > >>>>> > >>>>> You don't need to go down before left if you have the original 5 > speed > >>>>> shifter. If you use the 4 speed shifter then the reverse lockout > guide > >>>>> blocks 1st so you have to go down before you go left and back. > >>>>> > >>>>> Mark > >>>>> > >>>>> Stacy Schneider wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> First is like going in to reverse on a classic beetle every > >>>>>> time > >>>>>> you come away from a stop sign . > >>>>>> Of course this is my opinion . Some people may just shift > >>>>>> around > >>>>>> it and put the wear on their clutch instead . > >>>>>> Sure it may give you a spread in shifting . But so will a > >>>>>> well > >>>>>> built. 4 speed and none of the dreaded down and left every time you > >>>>>> > >>>>> stop . > >>>> > >>>>> My. 914/6 had the same set up ,except you didn't have to > push > >>>>>> down to get in gear and I didn't 't care for it either. . > >>>>>> I grew up driving and stick and have never owned any > thing > >>>>>> > >>>>> else > >>>> > >>>>> . In my opinion 1st gear belongs up and left . Add as many gears on > >>>>>> > >>>>> the > >>>> > >>>>> end , I am fine as well . But left and down for 1 st ,no thanks . > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Stacy > >>>>>> Vanagonsplus.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> >
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