

| Subject: | Re: 5 speeds, was: Noisy transaxle?? |
| From: | ralph meyermann |
| Date: | Tue, 22 Oct 2013 17:23:56 -0500 |
I believe they call that a porta band, have a few at work. It should make things a bit easier with the drivetrain lowered an inch too. Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy On Oct 22, 2013 5:06 PM, "Scott Daniel" <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > Sounds good. > I love working metal myself. Heck .. > just 'repairing' something is boring compared to making some creative part > that's elegant. > > the front trans mount is thicker than sheet metal of course.. > but a torch and a few tools and you can do a lot there. > > I modified the cross member there the front trans mount mounts. I made the > two forward frame holes be the new aft once....welding in a piece of 2 inch > angle iron for the new two forward holes. > I also built a hump in the firewall for trans clearance to the body. > And I relocated the brake line going across there. Tons of work. > > there was a big discussion about this a couple of years ago I think .. > and people mentioned a method similar to your idea I believe.. > which would be simpler than what I did. > > yeah..building the components..that gets to be fun. > I just scored a new tool at a flea market ...10 bucks. > A power band saw .. > but not a band saw like the normal kind.. > It's Milwaukee brand ' hand- held power hack saw' .. > I cut a syncro skid bar with it last night ( to extend it for a subaru > conversion ) and that saw cut through it like it was butter.. > much nicer than a chop saw or hand hack saw, or cutting torch. > for 10 bucks too ...had to have cost 200 new . > It's way more fun if you fab up things yourself ..very rewarding that way. > > if you move the trans forward , you have to shorten the rear shift rod a > like amount usually. Not too hard to do. > > yeah....5 speed 1.9 TD Westy .. > doesn't get better than that until you go to TDI or Syncro. > > Scott > > On 10/22/2013 2:57 PM, ralph meyermann wrote: > > Hmm? 2 " moving the engine back could make the throttle cable and coolant > lines an issue? A bit of cutting/sectioning/welding for the trans mount to > move forward shouldn't be that hard. I ave done plenty of sheet metal work > building dirt late model bodies and other components. > > Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy > On Oct 22, 2013 4:43 PM, "Scott Daniel" <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > > > That's not hard at all Ralph .. > well, depending on what you mean by 'hard .' > > You might be able to do it without removing the gas tank ... > and really ..since you have a guide bushing in a metal tab above your gas > tank that you won't be using .. > the right way involves removing the gas tank. > and dealing with engine mounting location and bars. > > the 5 speed being two inches longer puts the engine two inches further aft > , VW's solution. > Mine was to move the front trans mount forward in the body two inches.. > but it was a lot of work the way I did it. Worked out really nice though. > > Scott > > On 10/22/2013 2:15 PM, ralph meyermann wrote: > > Think I can handle that pattern, now the hard part of bolting it in and the > connection of the shift linkage. > > Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy > On Oct 22, 2013 4:08 PM, "Jim Felder" <jim.felder@gmail.com> <jim.felder@gmail.com> <jim.felder@gmail.com> <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The layout for a factory five-speed is all the way left and forward, > reverse. All the way left and back, first. Forward in the middle slot, > second. Pull back into third. Forward to the right is fourth, and you pull > back into fifth. Fourth and fifth on all but your very steepest hills, > that's what you get with a five speed. There is no pushing down to engage > any gears, just click click click. Mine was rebuilt 100K miles ago and > shifts very smoothly and precisely. > > Jim > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:00 PM, ralph meyermann <ralphmeyermann@gmail.com > > wrote: > > so instead of pushing down left and forward for reverse, it would be down > left then back ? I could handle that, Velma is primarily a road > trip/camping vehicle. This is my first VW and not informed on the various > shift patterns. > > Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy > On Oct 22, 2013 3:02 PM, "mark drillock" <mdrillock@cox.net> <mdrillock@cox.net> <mdrillock@cox.net> <mdrillock@cox.net> wrote: > > > There is no way to make 4 gears as useful as 5 for a non-tdi diesel. > Spreading out 4 gears to cover the same range as 5 leaves gaps that the > weaker engine can't deal with. > > You don't need to go down before left if you have the original 5 speed > shifter. If you use the 4 speed shifter then the reverse lockout guide > blocks 1st so you have to go down before you go left and back. > > Mark > > Stacy Schneider wrote: > > > First is like going in to reverse on a classic beetle every time > you come away from a stop sign . > Of course this is my opinion . Some people may just shift around > it and put the wear on their clutch instead . > Sure it may give you a spread in shifting . But so will a well > built. 4 speed and none of the dreaded down and left every time you > > stop . > > My. 914/6 had the same set up ,except you didn't have to push > down to get in gear and I didn't 't care for it either. . > I grew up driving and stick and have never owned any thing > > else > > . In my opinion 1st gear belongs up and left . Add as many gears on > > the > > end , I am fine as well . But left and down for 1 st ,no thanks . > > Stacy > Vanagonsplus.com > > > > > > > >
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