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Karl Wolz
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> On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:17 PM, JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> From my days in Alaska I've still got an Alaska goose down sleeping
> robe. Jack Frost - bring it on!!!
> 
> John
> 
>> On 10/31/2013 5:51 PM, Al Knoll wrote:
>> New dog? or two?
>> 
>> Woolies?
>> 
>> A legendary organic squirrel coat?
>> 
>> Pensionerd.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 6:49 PM, tom ring <taring@taring.org> wrote:
>>> I am going to do a one night camp at Surly Darkness tomorrow night and have
>>> been experimenting with ways to add some extra heat independent of my propane
>>> catalytic unit.
>>> 
>>> I am doing a couple of things, both are quite simple.
>>> 
>>> First, preheat the interior as much as possible.  I am using a 1200 watt
>>> electric heater running at 500 watts (low).  My current outside temperature is
>>> 39F, and my van has been at 75F for over 24 hours.  There is a lot of heat
>>> stored in the interior, especially the 150 lbs of the battery bank.
>>> 
>>> Second, to heat things up quickly (when the interior was at 37F yesterday), I
>>> bought 2 4.5 gallon water containers from Fleet Farm.  They actually hold 5.5
>>> gallons or 46 lbs of water.  My hot water temperature at home is 148F.  If you
>>> do some simple math where 1 lb of water heated 1 degree F, or cooled, is 1 BTU.
>>>  I am assuming the low temperature cutoff is 80F.  So (148-80) * 46 is 3128
>>> BTUs.  I have 2 of those containers.  That is more than 2 hours of my propane
>>> 3000 BTU heater.  I am using those during the preheat stage and will refill
>>> them for the camping stage.
>>> 
>>> I also plan to fill the tank in the van with the same temperature water and
>>> leave the top cover open.  I think that's another 11 gallons, so would add
>>> 2*3128 or 6256 BTUs.  Between that, the van 24 hour preheat, my body heat,
>>> waste heat from the fridge, and the heater, I expect I will be very snug
>>> tomorrow night at Darkness Day Eve.  Overnight temperatures are expected to be
>>> around freezing depending on cloud cover.
>>> 
>>> I hope someone else from the list will be there.  We see people from all over
>>> the continent.  Good beer, good people.
>>> 
>>> tom
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----------------------------------------
>>> Tom Ring K0TAR EN34hx
>>> 
>>> Never attribute to engineers that into which politicians, lawyers,
>>> accountants, and marketeers have poked their fingers.
>>> -----------------------------------------
>>