Dogs.

Karl Wolz
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> On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Nothing sleeps as warm as a down bag....
>
>
>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:17 PM, JRodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From my days in Alaska I've still got an Alaska goose down sleeping
>> robe. Jack Frost - bring it on!!!
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>> On 10/31/2013 5:51 PM, Al Knoll wrote:
>>>
>>> New dog? or two?
>>>
>>> Woolies?
>>>
>>> A legendary organic squirrel coat?
>>>
>>> Pensionerd.
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 6:49 PM, tom ring <taring@taring.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am going to do a one night camp at Surly Darkness tomorrow night and
>>>> have
>>>> been experimenting with ways to add some extra heat independent of my
>>>> propane
>>>> catalytic unit.
>>>>
>>>> I am doing a couple of things, both are quite simple.
>>>>
>>>> First, preheat the interior as much as possible.  I am using a 1200 watt
>>>> electric heater running at 500 watts (low).  My current outside
>>>> temperature is
>>>> 39F, and my van has been at 75F for over 24 hours.  There is a lot of
>>>> heat
>>>> stored in the interior, especially the 150 lbs of the battery bank.
>>>>
>>>> Second, to heat things up quickly (when the interior was at 37F
>>>> yesterday), I
>>>> bought 2 4.5 gallon water containers from Fleet Farm.  They actually
>>>> hold 5.5
>>>> gallons or 46 lbs of water.  My hot water temperature at home is 148F.
>>>> If you
>>>> do some simple math where 1 lb of water heated 1 degree F, or cooled, is
>>>> 1 BTU.
>>>>  I am assuming the low temperature cutoff is 80F.  So (148-80) * 46 is
>>>> 3128
>>>> BTUs.  I have 2 of those containers.  That is more than 2 hours of my
>>>> propane
>>>> 3000 BTU heater.  I am using those during the preheat stage and will
>>>> refill
>>>> them for the camping stage.
>>>>
>>>> I also plan to fill the tank in the van with the same temperature water
>>>> and
>>>> leave the top cover open.  I think that's another 11 gallons, so would
>>>> add
>>>> 2*3128 or 6256 BTUs.  Between that, the van 24 hour preheat, my body
>>>> heat,
>>>> waste heat from the fridge, and the heater, I expect I will be very snug
>>>> tomorrow night at Darkness Day Eve.  Overnight temperatures are expected
>>>> to be
>>>> around freezing depending on cloud cover.
>>>>
>>>> I hope someone else from the list will be there.  We see people from all
>>>> over
>>>> the continent.  Good beer, good people.
>>>>
>>>> tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------**-----------
>>>> Tom Ring K0TAR EN34hx
>>>>
>>>> Never attribute to engineers that into which politicians, lawyers,
>>>> accountants, and marketeers have poked their fingers.
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>>>>
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