My spouse and myself.  Did a lot of goose hunting way back in the early
70's when I lived out in the bush.  Not a pin feather went to waste!
Goose feather pillows, goose down sleeping robes. Mostly Canadian
honkers but with a few snows and brant mixed in.

John

On 10/31/2013 9:12 PM, Karl Wolz wrote:
> Made by whom?
>
> Karl Wolz
> Sent from my electronic umbilicus
>
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:17 PM, JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>>  From my days in Alaska I've still got an Alaska goose down sleeping
>> robe. Jack Frost - bring it on!!!
>>
>> John
>>
>>> On 10/31/2013 5:51 PM, Al Knoll wrote:
>>> New dog? or two?
>>>
>>> Woolies?
>>>
>>> A legendary organic squirrel coat?
>>>
>>> Pensionerd.
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 6:49 PM, tom ring <taring@taring.org> wrote:
>>>> I am going to do a one night camp at Surly Darkness tomorrow night and have
>>>> been experimenting with ways to add some extra heat independent of my propane
>>>> catalytic unit.
>>>>
>>>> I am doing a couple of things, both are quite simple.
>>>>
>>>> First, preheat the interior as much as possible.  I am using a 1200 watt
>>>> electric heater running at 500 watts (low).  My current outside temperature is
>>>> 39F, and my van has been at 75F for over 24 hours.  There is a lot of heat
>>>> stored in the interior, especially the 150 lbs of the battery bank.
>>>>
>>>> Second, to heat things up quickly (when the interior was at 37F yesterday), I
>>>> bought 2 4.5 gallon water containers from Fleet Farm.  They actually hold 5.5
>>>> gallons or 46 lbs of water.  My hot water temperature at home is 148F.  If you
>>>> do some simple math where 1 lb of water heated 1 degree F, or cooled, is 1 BTU.
>>>>   I am assuming the low temperature cutoff is 80F.  So (148-80) * 46 is 3128
>>>> BTUs.  I have 2 of those containers.  That is more than 2 hours of my propane
>>>> 3000 BTU heater.  I am using those during the preheat stage and will refill
>>>> them for the camping stage.
>>>>
>>>> I also plan to fill the tank in the van with the same temperature water and
>>>> leave the top cover open.  I think that's another 11 gallons, so would add
>>>> 2*3128 or 6256 BTUs.  Between that, the van 24 hour preheat, my body heat,
>>>> waste heat from the fridge, and the heater, I expect I will be very snug
>>>> tomorrow night at Darkness Day Eve.  Overnight temperatures are expected to be
>>>> around freezing depending on cloud cover.
>>>>
>>>> I hope someone else from the list will be there.  We see people from all over
>>>> the continent.  Good beer, good people.
>>>>
>>>> tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>> Tom Ring K0TAR EN34hx
>>>>
>>>> Never attribute to engineers that into which politicians, lawyers,
>>>> accountants, and marketeers have poked their fingers.
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>>>
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