<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; COLOR: rgb(0, 0, 0); FONT-SIZE: 16px"><DIV>&nbsp;My understanding of it is that folks did not clean out the "weep" holes.&nbsp; Cleaning the bottom of a vehicle is not something most folks (present company excluded) do when cleaning their car. &nbsp;As a result,&nbsp;snow, slush, mud,wetness in general got in between the pan and the bottom of the bus and stayed there.&nbsp;Rust formed that one did not know was there until it got real bad.&nbsp;&nbsp;If my memory serves me correctly, frame&nbsp;rails and cross members&nbsp;were especially hard&nbsp;hit.&nbsp;&nbsp; Especially if one does not live in a dry climate.</DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Dave B.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV style="BORDER-TOP: #bcbcbc 1px solid; MARGIN: 5px 0px"></DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: #000000">On 11/21/13, <SPAN>Richard A Jones&lt;Jones@Colorado.EDU&gt;</SPAN> wrote:</SPAN><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: #000000">On 11/21/2013 8:09 AM, <A class=parsedEmail href="mailto:ddbjorkman@verizon.net" target=_blank>ddbjorkman@verizon.net</A> wrote:<BR>&gt; VW stopped using those body pans due in part to the horrible rust problems that<BR>&gt; cropped up under those pans.<BR><BR>I'm curious now.... When did they stop? How do you know it was rust? <BR>Mine keeps the area 'twixt the pan and the frame-underbody cleaner<BR>and dryer than without. Plus it has several holes that make sure it<BR>drains and doesn't hold a lake.<BR><BR>Does anybody know if non-gas heater Vanagon models of the air-cooled<BR>had this pan? My '76 bay, without any gas heater, didn't have any pan.<BR><BR>If I had a 2wd Vanagon, I'd sure look at putting my spare on it.<BR>Of course, I live in a dry climate.<BR><BR>Richard<BR><BR><BR></DIV></div>