

| Subject: | Re: compressing piston rings in engine |
| From: | Jim Felder |
| Date: | Mon, 9 Dec 2013 13:45:43 -0600 |
Derek, I have used a home-made rig like that, but with an inertia puller. Jim On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Derek Burgess <ddb.graphic@gmail.com> wrote: > Tom, > Im not suggesting you remove the rods. I know some people say to, but to > me, then you have a bearing job better left to when you split the case! > > Rods still attached. > Remove the circlip's that hold the wrist pins. > Then remove the wrist pins using a tool like this > https://www.dropbox.com/s/nzp43gekwjteg5y/photo.JPG > > Ignore the fact that the piston/rod are out of the case in this photo, it > can be done with them in the case. > > I've seen it called a piston pin puller, the Bentley actually shows a > special VW tool to use, but I have never seen one in the wild- I made the > one in my photo from Home Depot parts- It works, I have used it twice now. > > > -Derek > 1990 GL Automatic "Vikki" > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Tom Carchrae <tom@carchrae.net> wrote: > > > Thanks Derek, that option has been glaring at me and it is looking ever > > more appealing. This route looks pretty straightforward too: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSBQTkPh_SQ (until you drop the nut) > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Derek Burgess <ddb.graphic@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > >> I know this isn't a direct answer to your question: but it's really alot > >> easier to pull the pistons, get them into the cylinders on a bench and > >> then > >> install the two together. I think pulling circlip's and piston pins > much > >> easier than trying to push a cylinder down over a piston still attached > to > >> the rod. Use rags to clog the cylinder bores, do not want circlips > flying > >> down into the block.. "would not be funny" -Ben > >> > >> > >> -Derek > >> 1990 GL Automatic "Vikki" > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Tom Carchrae <tom@carchrae.net> wrote: > >> > >> > Dear List, > >> > > >> > I am trying to get the rings compressed (with pistons attached to rods > >> and > >> > engine in the car). I am currently in practice mode - using the old > >> rings > >> > but I am finding, as warned, this is bloody tricky. Not to mention it > >> is > >> > getting awfully cold outside - my hands nearly froze to the cylinders > >> > yesterday (I am now storing them inside). > >> > > >> > Some observations: > >> > > >> > 1) I have a standard blue steel compressor: http://goo.gl/Eapbve(which > >> > has now been cut down as slim (width) as possible, thereby removing a > >> strip > >> > of steel that I could also use with a hose clamp) and it very nearly > >> fits > >> > (or maybe not) in the tight space between the water jacket and the > >> sleeve. > >> > If you've used one in this scenario, where did you locate the > >> compressor > >> > ratchet mechanism when doing the last cylinder: top, bottom, side? > The > >> > bottom seems to nearly work. > >> > > >> > 2) Even if I were to get the standard compressor to fit, how on earth > >> will > >> > I remove it? I would need to unwind it all the way and slide it out I > >> > guess? Or unwind it so it fits around the cylinder? I can see being > >> able > >> > to do that on the first cylinder, but that seems practically > impossible > >> on > >> > the second one when there is no room. If you've used the compressor > (hi > >> > Alistair!), which route did you go? > >> > > >> > 3) It seems that the VW specific ring tool ( http://goo.gl/RdkUEp ) > >> would > >> > be much easier to remove (but looks like fun job to get it to > compress). > >> > Alas, while it ranges from $5-10, it seems to be out of stock in > Canada > >> > and about $30-40 to ship. Bah. I'm considering making one from the > >> steel > >> > I cut from the compressor. > >> > > >> > 4) I really liked the zip tie then cut idea from Angus Gordon. I > have a > >> > hose clamp, but tightening it would seem quite difficult. I presume > >> that > >> > the way you would tighten a hose clamp is by going in the same access > >> hole > >> > (water pump/pipes holes) when you are doing the last cylinder? > >> > > >> > 5) It seems the sensible order to attach cylinders would be first the > >> two > >> > on the rear/flywheel side and then follow by front/pulley side. > >> > > >> > I am considering dropping the engine, if only so I can (a) get better > >> > access, (b) haul the engine inside to be warmer or god forbid (c) > admit > >> > defeat and take it to a shop who will roll eyes, cluck, and then > likely > >> > punish me for my arrogance. I guess most VW mechanics are used to > some > >> of > >> > that. > >> > > >> > As always, thanks in advance for any illumination. > >> > > >> > Tom > >> > > >> > > > > >
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